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I don't think any cartoon is an exact adaptation of their comic book counterpart. It's cliche to say, but I'd start with Batman: The animated series. In this case it wasn't really the show trying to be the comics, but since that show came out I've felt many Batman writers have take their inspiration from the show. The 90s Spider-man cartoon actually adapted arcs from the comic, and in a way felt similar yet its own thing. And I'd argue that the Justice League cartoon at least had the same tone as the comics (the 1997 run, definitely not the Justice League comics of today). Honestly, if a show was the exact same thing as the comic then there wouldn't be much point in it, would there?

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@tparks: Maybe the first of it's kind for comic book movies, but they had the different franchise team up movies back in the 30s and 40s with the Universal Monsters

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@rdclip said:
  • Make it less sappy. We don't need to see Kara cry in every episode
  • Fire Calista Flockhart. Cat Grant is the most annoying character on television. Viewers are tired of seeing Kara get bitched out by her boss every week.
  • De-emphasize the romance subplots. Either just have Kara get a boyfriend with a normal relationship or drop romance all together.
  • Tone down the feminist speak. You can have a strong female role model without constantly drawing attention to the fact that she is a woman.

I just started watching Supergirl so that I can watch S2 when it comes out, but with just the first few episodes I have to highly agree with pretty much all these points, especially the last one. There were just times when the line "because I'm a woman?" would be dropped and I yell at my screen saying "Nobody said that! Why are you saying that?"

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@jb681131: Yeah, but I was thinking in actual continuity.

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I think the only reason the hate is vocal is because fans of these shows know how good it can be. I wasn't the biggest fan of S1 Arrow, but die hard fans love the first two seasons, and according to them the quality really drops after that. The Flash had a phenomenal S1 (at least for me) to which they tried to rinse, wash, repeat their season plot points to remake that magic in S2. By no means is any of there shows garbage (I've only watched S1 of Arrow so maybe I'm wrong) but it's mostly disappointment that people are converting into hate so that they can vent.

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Okay I could be running head first before the "Go" is shouted, but do you think within the next 30 to 40 years DC will "retire" Superman/Clark and Batman/Bruce so that their sons take up the mantle? Or any other younger heroes taking up their mentor mantles/becoming a big hero themselves?

I like to think so. Honestly I don't believe Bruce will survive in 50 years, I'll give him 30 to be safe, but if he doesn't die before that mile marker then I'd think he either becomes the Bruce from Batman Beyond or he becomes someone else while one of his sons takes on the Bat mantle. I started thinking of this mainly because of Rebirth. Now, I don't think it will happen soon, but I feel like Rebirth has seeded the thoughts that these younger characters are growing up. Damian turned 13 and will be in the Teen Titans. Nightwing and his gang/friends aren't teen titans anymore, but their still in the shadows (partially) of their mentors. Finally, Superman has a son, and while I think there will be lots of great content for Father/Son bonding on his end I can't help but feel these are at least seeds on the original generation growing older while the younger one comes slowly into more providence.

So, what do you think about this, and do you think Bruce/Clark and everyone else will at some point pass on their legacies? If so, how long would you say it would be until then?

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Hm...I don't know. On one hand I'm full in on this because of Adam Strange, and I'm really looking forward to Hawkman, but it kind of saddens me that Hawkman hasn't had a great portrayal in such a long time.

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Huh, I always thought Coast and Keystone/Central were neighbors.

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1.) Reading one issue of a few series does not give you an impression on the Rebirth event simply because the rebirth one shots are to ease fans and new readers into what's going to happen. If anything the first three issues should tell you a better picture of what Rebirth has done to these titles.

2.) Being cheap is actually good. Expensive comics don't mean they're higher quality. You'll have more people think about spending a few dollars on a new comic, or a five dollar event comic from Marvel. Plus their core titles are doing bimonthly, and no fan from either DC nor Marvel would like to pay 4-5 per issue twice a month. 2.99 isn't unreasonable, and both parties are happy.

3.) Returnability is a nice touch. One thing I have heard from comic stores is that when New 52 sales were going way down they had a hard time getting rid of comics they thought would sell, thus they aren't making any money and are less likely to buy from DC as much as they were before. With this stores can easily find the best number of comics to order without worrying about a stack of comics no one will want. In fact, stores were ordering so little from DC before that many underestimated just how many Rebirth copies they needed. For the first two months I've went to three different comic shops and all three were having a hard time keeping DC in stock simply because since the New 52 they haven't seen that much interest in DC.

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"High media, high profile event

And a lot of number 1 because they sell the most."

Well.....Marvel does that too. Is that really a knock?

5.) The way I saw it DC's Rebirth initiative wasn't to "win the month" since only fans and comic sites care about that. Sure every company needs sales, but it felt more like Rebirth was a way for DC to tell the fans that they want to put them first ad will listen more. Because of that DC has been getting better talent, for the first time in years it feels like they know where to go with their comics, and it just overall feels like a good marriage of content for newer and older fans alike.

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I thought the characters in SS were at least more lighthearted than the rest of the DCEU so far, but yeah sadly WB just doesn't know anything.