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These picture leaks happen to everyone, from politicians like the aptly named Anthony Weiner, to celebrities like the batch who got pictures leaked today. If you store pictures online/send nude pictures to someone, you have to realize there is a chance they can get leaked. Common sense approach is to just not take the pictures in the first place, but of course people don't seem to have much common sense so this sort of stuff will doubtless keep happening.

So you are saying that in essence the only act that qualifies as sex is PIV? And that only PIV is capable of creating a strong emotional bond between individuals?

My apologies for disappearing from the argument but I had to get some sleep, working in Capital Markets is tiring business.

Back on topic though, I have still yet to see any proof for your statement that there is greater emotional attachment stemming from heterosexual sex than from homosexual sex, until you can provide some evidence as to the validity of your claim beyond just your own word, it can't be taken seriously. And beyond even that I would still argue you are putting the cart before the horse. You are saying that "true sex" leads to greater emotional intimacy while I would argue that its greater emotional intimacy that leads to more passionate/intimate sex.

In regards to (6.) It is good to see that you support that homosexual people are not inferior to heterosexual people. If all you are arguing is that heterosexual and homosexual relationships are different than I wholeheartedly agree with you, unless by difference you are attempting to infer inferiority to put one relationship type in a position of superiority to the other. In which case I feel your case is fairly weak as you still have not provided some evidence as to the superiority of PIV sex as opposed to other sexual acitivites. Other than the fact that PIV sex can lead to reproduction, I have not seen any evidence that differentiates it on other levels, such as emotional intimacy or mutual pleasure, that would lead me to conclude that PIV sex is the only way for two individuals to express "true love".

Fair enough, I still want to know where you are getting the idea that PIV sex involves greater emotional intimacy than other sexual acts between loving partners. But more importantly,Why you think that sex is the defining factor of whether love is real or not?

@dbvse7: Do you have some scientific study that can demonstrate the different emotional experience you are implying exists between PIV sex and other sexual acts. I Personally have never seen anything that suggests that PIV sex has some mystical increased emotional connection as opposed to other sexual acts between loving partners.

This whole discussion also seems to focus sex as being the defining expression of whether love is right, which I do not agree with. Sex can happen in so many ways completely devoid of love, hook ups, prostitution et cetera. In my view love is a very strong emotional connection between two individuals that transcends any single action like sex or such and as such cannot be called right or wrong merely based on the sexual mechanics of a given relationship.

What leads you to the conclusion that vaginal intercourse is "True Sex", is it only the fact that it has the ability to lead to procreation?

So your definition of love is literally solely based around the ability to have sex that can lead to procreation....

In regards to you referencing other sexual acts, have you not considered that perhaps by engaging in anal and oral sex people are not only interested in pleasing themselves but are also interested in making their partner feel good because they care about them emotionally and want them to be happy.

I view love as the emotional attachment between two individuals, not the ability to engage in procreative sex.

@dbvse7: I only ask because I am trying to better understand your position.

In fact if you are referencing "love" in regards to sexual and reproductive capability than I completely agree that that part of "love" is different between two men or two woman or a woman and a man. That should be self evident though as of course different pairings of genders results in different avenues available in the bedroom, and of course determining the ability to conceive, which only heterosexual intercourse can achieve.

If however you are referring to "love" as in the emotional attachment between two two individuals than I also agree that perhaps the love is not exactly the same. The dynamic in a relationship between two people of the same gender is of course not going to be exactly the same as a heterosexual relationship given that in a same-sex relationship both people grew up as the same gender and as such share similar life experiences (either the common "male experience" or "female experience") whereas the people in a heterosexual relationship of course have a different dynamic due to the different experiences of each member. This is just one example as there are also other factors that differentiate males and females in terms of hormones and other such things that can influence behavior and such. So I would agree that they are not exactly the same.

However I would like to point out that there is also great variety in the emotional dynamic, couple to couple, even in heterosexual relationships. Heterosexual people aren't some monolithic block of people who all march in the lockstep of perpetual sameness. The emotional "love" in one heterosexual relationship can be totally different to the experience of "love" in another heterosexual relationship. And this is where I want to say that if you are using difference to infer inferiority I must strongly disagree with you. Just because the emotional connection between a homosexual couple is not the exact same as between a heterosexual couple does not mean that homosexual love is inherently lesser or deserving of being treated like some dysfunction. If that is what you are inferring by love being different than I must vehemently disagree with your position.

Are you inferring this statement from a reproductive perspective, an emotional perspective, or both?

Can you elaborate upon this statement?