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Do Kryptonians still have no magic resistance? If so, Odin annihilates anything Superman has to offer.

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Guys, can we consider not using Revan for battles anymore? His feats are all over the place due to the vast amount of retconning that he's been subjected to.

KotOR/KotOR 2 Revan was hyped up to the point that most people who played the original games got the impression that he was godly powerful-before the book and MMO came out, people were genuinely arguing that he should be able to take on the likes of Sidious and Chosen One Anakin.

Book Revan was a powerful Jedi, but considerably weaker than he was made out to be in the games.

MMO Revan was...weird. I'm not even going to go there.

Whenever someone puts him in a fight, the debaters always seem to pick an incarnation of Revan and discount all other feats, making it impossible to conclusively quantify his power.

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#3  Edited By Tomekeeper

1) Iron Man (Standard armor only)

Loki should take this without too many problems.

2) T-1000 Terminator

Loki stomps, don't think the Terminator has any magic resistance whatsoever.

3) Albus Dumbledore

Loki stomps. Harry Potter magic is pretty OP, but Dumbledore is human and thus Loki should be able to speedblitz easily.

4) Regina Mills

Can't find many feats online, but from what I can see Loki should win with ease.

5) Darth Tyrannus

Loki wins with very little difficulty.

6) Ocarina of Time Link

Loki should stomp, unless I'm forgetting something.

7) Current Doctor Strange

Loki wins. The one-sided prep might even make this a stomp.

8) Gameplay Dovahkhiin (Not from lore)

Loki stomps unless one believes the command console is CHIM, in which case the Dragonborn is an omnipotent. I assume, for the sake of balance, this is not the case.

9) Hal Jordan

Loki wins with some difficulty. Would be much closer if neither side had prep.

10) Silver Surfer

Loki wins due to one-sided prep and Surfer's morals, but it's a close fight. If neither side had prep, Surfer would probably take a good majority due to being much better in a fair fight.

11) Classic Doctor Strange

Peak Loki has beaten Classic Strange before IIRC. Loki takes it, probably with more ease than he beat the Surfer.

12) Rumplestiltzkin (Once Upon a Time)

Again, don't know anywhere near enough to make a fair judgement but from what I can see of his feats and stats, there's nothing stopping Loki from transmuting him into snow or killing him via time-travel, or speed-blitzing him, or annihilating him via telepathy and making him commit suicide with his own dagger.

13) 11th Doctor

Ah. This might be somewhat harder for Loki. Both have time travel, but the Doctor has far more feats than Loki could hope to have. That said, I'm struggling to think of what the Doctor could actually do to Loki with morals on. Loki is far faster, far more physically powerful, an incredibly versatile magic user who is apparently now a reality warper and can time travel without the use of a Tardis. Seeing as the battle takes place in the middle of New York, I'm inclined to say that Loki wins if the Doctor can't get to his TARDIS before Loki kills him or incapacitates him.

One factor I haven't yet considered is the Doctor's prep. This depends entirely on what knowledge the two have of each other. If the Doctor is aware of Loki is, he will prepare accordingly-but without outside help or getting aid from his friends, I'm not sure whether it will be enough. However, if the Doctor knows about Loki killing his past self, who was effectively an innocent child, I suspect that the Doctor would be angry enough to use the Heart of the Tardis or similar hax.

In short:

No knowledge but prep: Loki stomps.

Knowledge and prep: Loki wins with difficulty.

Complete knowledge of one another: Doctor godstomps.

Overall, I'm tentatively giving it to Loki.

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As of the latest Loki: Agent of Asgard, it also seems that Loki can time travel to a ridiculous degree: he travelled to a time when Odin and the Serpent were both young and was able to act in a manner that would affect his future. Pretty certain Mirror Master is outmatched here.

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Hope these help. :)

http://www.comicvine.com/loki/4005-4324/forums/loki-respect-thread-643269/

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-438972-loki-respect-thread.html

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Does Mirror Master have any prep feats that could allow him to take out a morals off Loki in the Destroyer armour? I admit I don't know an awful lot about him, but Loki's been written as a reality warper at peak power lately, he's strong enough to kill mirror master with a single punch and fast enough to dodge Mjolnir. He's gone toe to toe with Dr Strange and was winning before the fight was broken up IIRC. Doom seems to see him as an equal, or as close as Doom is capable of seeing anyone as an equal. He's even stalemated the Silver surfer. He's been able to escape Celestial technology prisons. With prep, he's gained access to items such as the Twilight Sword, , the Norn Stones, the Destroyer and been able to kill Skyfather-level Bor. Durability wise, he's taken hits from Thor, the Silver Surfer, Dormammu, Surtur and survived beheading.

He's also been able to bind Mistress Death, although I freely admit that's PIS.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Loki%20Stats/LokiMagicPower24Deadpool34.jpg

My money's on Loki, naturally. :P

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Major kudos to both of you-extremely well argued and informed.

I'm going to vote for the Slender Man though, solely because I'm unconvinced that the Dahaka could resist the Slender Sickness indefinitely. Furthermore, I'm uncertain whether many, if any, of Dahaka's admittedly very impressive powers would have any effect on an eldritch abomination.

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According to Kieron Gillen, current Loki at full power is a reality warper. Couple that with Superman's lack of magic resistance, and I think that team 2 takes this. However, I do think that team 1 are more powerful-it's just that Loki is a bad matchup for Superman and I doubt Wonder Woman can take on both brothers at once.

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How does standard Thanos stand a chance against Dream? Destiny has practically no feats, but as he's the oldest of the Endless I'm willing to bet that he's strong enough to take it as well.

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#10  Edited By Tomekeeper

Yeah, to be honest I'm never quite sure why Supes get so much hate for being overpowered while Surfer is so popular. I guess it's because he doesn't get as much publicity as Superman and he's arguably a more likable character. Good mini-debate btw. :)

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