Timandm

Merlin.... Simple as that.

@cattlebattle said:

@katanalauncher said:

@cattlebattle said:

@katanalauncher said:

Magneto didn't kill him, nor was it retconed.

On top of my head, Wolverine haven't really died in 616.

He died in Dallas with the rest of the X-Men back in the 80's

Yeah they died for 3 seconds, and ut really wasn't retcon if they were bought back immediately afterwards

Yeah, it still counts as a death though

Was that the time the entire team was killed by a powerful Demon that looked like an American Indian?

@Hazlenaut: You gave the Rorscharc scan a 7.5... But, in that scan, he's hacking up a man who kidnapped, rapped, mutilated, and burned the body of a little girl... I think it was implied that she was not his first victim... I don't really see that as an act of evil...

Like everyone else is saying.

1. It's not a reboot, just a renumbering.
2. The first few issues have already been written and likely printed. Marvel couldn't change it if they wanted to.
3. In light of the fact that Professor X is no longer the leader of the X-Men, and that Xavier's is no longer a school, a renumbering isn't entirely out of line...

As far as "rebooting" goes. I feel like the X-Men have been rebooted so many times it's hard to keep track...

Although, as a fellow long time reader, I can appreciate you're not wanting the change... I HATE reboots and I dislike renumbering. It makes things more confusing when discussing the past of the characters.

@cattlebattle said:

@Timandm said:

@TheCrowbar said:

Why is Magneto wearing a bra?

He's always worn a bra, it's just that now he's decided to wear it on the OUTSIDE... Like Madonna...

LOL, at least its not pointy

I think you have to reach a higher level of the game for that... or join the Hell Fire club.. LOL!

@Steps said:

I forgot where I read this but it was Cyke and Wolvering versus a lot of enemies and Logan goes on about how he'll handle it himself and doesn't need back up or something and Scott just agrees then Wolverine asks if he was joking. I loved how Cyke kept a straight face through it all.

I remember that. They were on Genosha just after Magneto had taken over it and was subjugating all non-mutants. Yeah, it was a great scene... Wish I could find it. It's either in X-Men or Uncanny X-Men in 2001.

Wolverine... But they just never give him enough panel time and leave him out of so many of the stories. It's not fair... Perhaps if Marvel would put him in some of the other titles...

@CATPANEXE: Hey at least it's not X-Lizards

Oh, thank God...

the city being destroyed and suddenly being fixed is pretty much the concept that goes down in every comic book

True... I guess it's just being served in such HUGE doses at the moment.. Fear Itself and Spider Island have to happen within a few months of each other... So... How did New York get fixed so quickly? But yes, it's ALWAYS getting repaired quickly.

I'm a little lost though as to people dying since they've yet to show nor state that happening.

Well, consider the second Cloak and Dagger Spider-Island tie in... Mister Negative's "demons" are killing the college students that mutated into huge spiders... In Spider-Girl we see that those pesty Wasps have been killing people who have developed spider powers or turned into spiders.

So many of the Kingpin's people have been killed that he's actually CONCERNED. And this is a man who is USED to his people being killed. So, the amount has to be significant. If that many of the Kingpin's men have been killed, it's reasonable to assume that a similar percentage of the 'non-criminal' population have been killed as well.

In Cloak and Dagger, it just looks like wholesale slaughter of anything spiderish... So, we don't know what the numbers are, but it has to be significant...

More and more I'm dropping big names from the list and not trying to keep up with the continuity and events of the big two and only reading the ones that really interest me and following only the talent that appeals to me. It's hard to do like kicking a bad habit, but it's helping improve my overall satisfaction with the medium whereas my perception of it was for awhile becoming extremely negative and stress inducing.

You're probably right.. Kind of like, getting sick of a particular restaurant even though you've loved it for years... Stop eating there so much and maybe the few times you DO eat there, you'll enjoy it more... I've actually started a few titles from other publishers. I LOVED the Mystery Men.. (that's not Marvel is it?) and I'm considering Assassin's Creed. I think I'd like to get into something, in a universe where there are no really "superpowers" per se, but still super heroes...

You know, it's possible that I bitch about the story arcs and writers more than most in here... and yet.. Here I am.. LOL!!!

@danhimself said:

man have I got to disagree....Spider-Island is one of the most enjoyable Spider-man books in years....it's just plain fun and that's what Spider-man books should be about...fun..let other characters be grim and gritty...that's just not Spider-man

Fair point... Maybe I just need to quit analyzing and just enjoy the story... (But I still reserve the right to bitch...)

Good Question!

@cattlebattle said:

@Timandm: lol your to comics what Lewis Black is to politics, your rants are always great. I think you have to be a big Spider-Man fan to enjoy it otherwise its just...meh. Same could really be said for much of what Marvel puts out these days

You're right. I COULD be said... Although, I find myself actually enjoying Fear Itself... My favorite part of the entire Fear itself thing, are those Asgardian Dwarves that made the weapons for the super heroes.

@CATPANEXE: Um.. Yeah. I DID sort of forget to actually talk about the things in Spider-Island I didn't like. I guess that's sort of important when you're criticizing a story. To actually talk about the story... LOL!. My Bad.

So... What don't I like about Spider-Island...

1: The dredged up the clone saga thing again... The Spider-Man clone saga is like Spoiled Milk. And, perhaps the most important thing about spoiled milk is that tomorrow, it's STILL going to be spoiled milk. Try it yourself. When your milk spoils (Assuming you have milk in your fridge long enough for it to go bad) put it back in the fridge. Then take it out a day later and try it. It will STILL be spoiled... Try this for a week... STILL spoiled...

The Spider-Man Clone Saga is the spoiled milk of the Marvel Comics Universe... Please, Please, PLEASE throw it out...

2: The Art. I know many people LOVE the style of art that's being used. Where the characters aren't always recognizable, and their somewhat mis-proportioned. But I really don't like it. I realize that's simply a matter of taste.

3; This is yet ANOTHER story which happens in a time span of less than a few months, in which hundreds if not thousands of people are hurt, or killed, AND there's hundreds of millions of dollars in property damage, AND the economy of the entire world should be significantly impacted in a major way (the new york stock exchange would shut down) and yet, as soon as this event is over, it'll be business as usual...

• Fear Itself - Millions of lives lost. Utter property destruction probably on the level of sever hundreds of billions of dollars of damage...

• Schism - Lots of lives lost, lots of damage.

• Spider-Island - New York City basically shut down. Thousands injured, lots of people killed. hundreds of millions of dollars of damage...

But then, PRESTO, everything will be perfectly fine... I realize it is a comic book universe, but there has to be SOME level of physical reality to which they adhere...

4: Did I mention the freaking Clone Saga?

5: The overall absurdity of the storyline... Bedbugs spreading a retrovirus (or something like it) sounds not only scientifically viable, but a darn fine evil plan. But it should easily have spread across the entire country. There's no logical reason for it to not have crossed bridges.. But that's not the part that bothers me. It's just... um... ridiculous? Like when all the superheroes turned into Hulks. That story was just ridiculous... What's next, everyone turns into Magneto? Everyone turns into Quicksilver? Everyone turns into Wolverine? Actually, there's no need for that since Wolverine is on every team in the Marvel Universe...

I will, however, point out... That even though the story isn't grabbing me, and I'm not really enjoying it... I'm still reading it... So... SOMETHING about it, has me interested enough to keep reading it...