What life lessons have comic books taught you ??

Let´s get serious in here for a moment, the comic book is a medium made to entertain the readers, but to people like me (and I´m sure many of you reading this) it is so much more, it is a place where we go to forget everything else going on in life, a place where we feel safe, where we feel anything is possible.

When we read these stories we feel part of a larger community that will always be there for us, and in a way, they are.

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These special heroes help us get through the day when we feel down, they make us smile wider when we´re already happy, they make us cry, they make us laugh. Some people just see stories, but I see so much more, I see life´s problems and happiness reflected on them, I see a place where every problem has a solution, where everything will eventually be all right, where hope is overflowing.

Peter Parker is my role model, Spider-Man is more than just a comic book character to me, he is the embodiment of hope and the good in this world, in having a positive way to live your life, because no matter what he´s been through, he always gets through the day giving his very best, because anything less than his best, anything less than our best is simply not acceptable because even if we fall short, what better way is there to live. A lesson he´s taught me every time I read his stories. For me, Peter Parker represents everything good in life, the hope, the kindness, the love, simply put, the way he handles himself in life is what I aspire to be someday, and I´m proud to call him my role model.

Let me share with you this small story I found in the Spider-Man forums.

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With that said, I want to know what life lessons have comic books taught you.

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Who should write Thor Odinson once he becomes worthy again? Here are my picks !!

Who should write Thor Odinson

Hello everyone, this blog will be dedicated on who I think should write Thor Odinson once Jason Aaron is done writing his story bullsh*t. The Ragnarok movie keeps coming closer and we´ll most likely see the god of thunder regain his worthiness around that time, not to mention Jason Aaron himself said he´d finish writing Thor at the end of 2017, so Marvel needs to start looking for the next writer, let´s hope someone in the company stumbles upon this blog..........one can dream, right ? But yeah, hopefully this gets to the right people.

Thor Odinson has gone through some bad stuff in the past years, he needs to come back with a bang, for that, they need someone of high caliber to make Thor re-gain everything that makes him awesome, to bring back all the cool concepts of his worldbuilding and the supporting characters, someone who knows how to write all the asgardian characters in an appropriate way and understands that Thor is beyond the mundane and mortal concepts, he is a deity, a god, but at the same time, make the readers care about this godly character, basically, that they manage to make the mortal and godly cohabitate and blend together perfectly, the next image describes what Thor should be when written properly.

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My Picks

So here it goes, these two writers, in my opinion, would make one of the best (if not the best) Thor run based on how they have handled the character on the past.

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Rick Remender

If any of you has read his Uncanny Avengers run, then you know that Remender gets Thor´s character perfectly and respects him a lot, and I mean a lot, he delivered some incredible moments with the god of thunder, both feat-wise and concept-wise.

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Here is another one with a very quotable sentence for when you´re simply not in the mood, it makes me laugh and shows who the boss is, just so goddamn good.

"I care.... not"

"I care not"

"I........care.......NOT"

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Talk about awesomeness, plain badass all around, just the way Odinson should be.

What´s great about Remender is that his stories are both plot-driven and character-driven, which is very hard to find nowadays, you usually have one or the other, but Rick Remender manages to mesh the two together perfectly and actually make some lasting developments to the characters he is working on. I would say Thor is the second lead role character in all of his Uncanny Avengers run, his actions are what moves most of the plot forward, and unlike every other writer at the moment, he only wrote Odin for three pages and represented him better than everyone else post-resurrection, whereas currently everyone portrays Odin as an old fool who yells all the time and has no regard for others, Remender injected some of the all father´s past self, the wise, all-knowing, all-caring Odin who always seeks what is best for everyone.

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Seriously, I can´t recommend his Uncanny Avengers run enough, he understands that Thor is a deity, a god and he makes it clear in many instances, for example when Wasp is about to be murdered by Sentry, while we read Janet´s thoughts in that moment, she says "he´s insane, so much power, it would take an act of god to defeat him, and I happen to know one" then Thor comes in and smacks Sentry and turns his skull into goo.

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Another similar instance is when the earth heroes ask how are they going to defeat the Celestial Exitar to which Captain America says, "with a god", and, you guessed it, Thor comes into the scene to take down Exitar by using Jarnbjorn.

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To me, it is very important that the writer gets the godly concept of Thor, not because of feats or anything like that, but because of the concept itself, it is what makes Thor, well, Thor. When I read Thor, I want to get that godly vibe, if I wanted to read about human problems, I can go and grab a Daredevil or Captain America book, but when I grab a Thor book, I want to read about gods, about deities and godly figures and the cosmic, magical and big threats they have to deal with, while at the same time making us care about this godly characters and root for them, Rick Remender has shown he can do those things quite well.

Now, let´s go to my other pick.

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Jonathan Hickman

In a time where Thor was at his lowest quality-wise, when cheap gimmicks and PR stunts ruled the Marvel Universe and the god of thunder was amongst the most affected, he managed to pack an entire story arc for Thor in less than 8 issues and wrote him better than anyone else at the moment, while also giving him some incredible and badass moments. Take the following pages as an example, he got the character perfectly.

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"The times, they try to shape us, perhaps instead of fighting, we should embrace it. Once, I was worthy, now it is no longer so, there was a time when I knew I would meet my fate in battle with mjolnir in hand, I still believe that to be true" - Thor

It gives me chills every time I read that, just so good damn well written.

Hickman also made Thor worthy again before facing his inevitable death against the Beyonders, and instead of being worried, he laughed, but that was a laugh of relief because he would face his death as he should, being worthy and fighting not for himself, but for everyone else.

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"If this is the end, let me not meet it as the unworthy......but as my father´s son" - Thor

Hickman´s stories are more plot-driven than character-driven, but in this case, that´s not a problem because he still manages to develop characters and give them great moments, all you need to look is at his Fantastic Four run, the very first panel from the beginning and the very last panel of the end of his run were related and served for one simple purpose, going deep into the character of Reed Richards, hell, in his very first story arc he almost made me cry because the story was emotionally deep, like really deep. Besides, his stories always have this sense of high-scope and big epic stories, I think he would do great with Thor´s character, he showed in his Avengers run that he has a really good grasp of the thunder god and respects him a lot, and he handles that godly aspect that I mentioned earlier and is so important to most of Thor readers incredibly well, an example is seen in Infinity #6 when one of Thanos´ servants says "in the end, all that remains are the whispered prayers of the condemned, and the hope that there´s a god up there listening" then Thor comes in and strucks Thanos with lightning.

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So there you have it, in my opinion, either Rick Remender or Jonathan Hickman would make a great fit in writing Thor Odinson, tell me what you think and let me know your picks in the comments below, hope you enjoyed the read !!

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UPDATE: What really happened with the "Illuminati" and the "Incursions" ??

So, since Reed Richards restored the multiverse after the events of "Secret Wars" it has not been clear what actually happened and did not happen regarding the illuminati, incursions and the beyonders. I remember in some issue of ANAD Avengers someone asking that kind of question and they gave him a vague answer, I just can´t remember the issue.

For example, in the newest issue of Captain Hydra, we get a one in a million mention of the incursions, I found that pretty surprising since it seems Marvel is trying to ignore that since they don´t even know how to explain how much was altered when Reed restored the multiverse.

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"You damn sure didn´t need everything to be above board and public when you and your illuminati were taking the incursions into your own hands"

That´s what Steve tells Tony, but that just brings up more and more questions regarding the incursions, when Reed restored the multiverse, it would have seen he made it as if the incursions were never a thing and the world continued like they never happened. One very important factor is that during all of these events, Steve and Tony´s relationship seemed to be broken beyond repair, even worse than the original Civil War, I literally saw no way how they could ever be friends again or even be in the same room, so when Reed restored the multiverse and made it as if the incursions never happened, then it was only logical that the events that led to their problems never happened, thus repairing their (unrepairable) relationship without actually repairing it, but now, Steve mentions he has knowledge about the incursions, meaning they did in fact happened, but what bothers me the most is that it would mean they actually went through all the problems they originally had, so them being friends again without the slightest explanation bothers me a lot, like, a lot.

Both trying to repair and solve their problems would have made a very good storyline and dynamic, and Marvel is just ignoring events and continuity (oh so weird) and that is very annoying.

There are many other questions I have, for instance, do the characters that were on the life raft such as Peter Parker, Miles Morales, Black Panther and the others remember the events of Secret Wars/Battleworld ?? They should since they were not affected by Doom because of the life raft, the same one that kept Thanos and his Cabal alive as well.

Another question is, what did Black Panther do when he took a gem from the infinity gauntlet in the last issue of SW and went back to Wakanda ?? I checked the comments on the review of the issue in IGN and people are saying Black Panther used the time gem in order to avoid the fsll of Wakanda, so basically what I can gather.

  • Reed/Molecule Man restored the world the way it was but without the incursions ever happening
  • Black Panther went back in time to avoid the fall of Wakanda

But everything is so confusing, Hickman should have explained things much better. If you remember, when Black Panther used the gem at the end of Secret Wars, he came back to the exact scene from the very first issue of Hickman´s New Avengers, so did Panther travelled back in time and knew what would happen all along during all of Hickman´s run ??

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UPDATE: More about what exactly happened in Secret Wars was revealed in "Infamous Iron Man #3" where Doctor Doom explains why he has decided to become a hero, and in doing so he mentions his time as a god in Battleworld and that only a few people know/remember that ever happened, look for yourself.

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I wonder if those few he refers are the ones that were in the life-raft like Peter, Miles, Ultimate Reed, Black Panther etc...I certainly would like to see more references as to whom exactly remembers those events.

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That´s it for my rant, thanks for reading, tell me what you think did happen and did not happen in the new multiverse created by Reed Richards.

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100 Followers !! Thanks

I just reached 100 followers, I want to thank everybody for making my experience on Comic Vine amazing, there are many cool people in here and I would not finish if I talked to each user and tell them how awesome they are, so I just want to thank all of my friends here, you know who you are.

But there are some people who I´d like to tag to give special thanks.

@theamazingspidey: Bro, you were my first friend here in Comic Vine and one of the coolest and nicest people in here, it´s a shame you´re not in this website as much as you used to be, but you know you can count with me.

@conner_wolf: Man, remember that 30 page long PM ?? We used to talk a lot, we don´t talk as often but I want you to know you´re awesome bro, your knowledge on science is insane.

@asgaard: You are simply the most knowledgeable person on Thor I have ever talked to, it´s insane the amount of knowledge you have on him.

@wyldsong: @cosmicallyaware1: You two are some of the best debaters this website has to offer, everything about your debating is top notch and I hope one day to achieve your level.

Also, special thanks to my Thor-buddies and my Spider-buddies, you know who you are.

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Thor´s Feats: Capabilities of Odinson

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Hello everyone, in here you´ll be able to see the god of thunder in all his glory and splendor, this is an amazing character that deserves to be respected and is one of the greatest heroes ever created.

I am making this thread because there seems to be an endless number of people misinformed when it comes to Thor and his power level/capabilites, it seems that many people in here hate him with no apparent reason and thus he suffers a lot in the battle forums due to the ignorance of many users, so my intention here is to show to everyone how powerful he is and give the god of thunder the respect he deserves.

I´ll be explaining his feats, context, post the scans and give the issue number where each showing happened, so everyone can get their conclusions for themselves, so with no further delay, here it is.

(I will be updating this blog as time goes on)

This blog will be divided in the next categories:

  • Striking power
  • Durability
  • Speed
  • Combat skills
  • Clearing misconceptions
  • Extras

Striking Power

This area is where Thor shines the most, his striking power is very impressive, it is above most people in his tier and it´s often what gives him the win against more powerful foes.

- For example, during The Mighty Thor #133, a female character named Tana Nile, who was an alien from the planet Rigel, tried to conquer earth using something called "space lock", a machine capable of pulling the earth out of its orbit, that of course wasn´t good news for Thor, so he let himself get captured by other Rigelians and went to their homeworld in an attempt to destroy the space lock, but he was offered a deal, if we went to the Black Galaxy (a place that the Rigelians were extremely scared of) and ended the threat that lurked within, they would let go of Midgard, so he accepted the deal, and what Thor found inside the Black Galaxy was Ego The Living Planet, Ego stated Thor was his ultimate test of power, that after defeating him, he would go outside of the Black Galaxy and conquer the universe. Ego controls every single thing within him, as his name states he is a living planet, he is everywhere and anywhere, Thor stated he had never faced a foe as powerful as Ego, during the issue, the living planet displayed powers such as these.

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Just by looking at the scans and reading the dialogue, you can realize Ego is an extremely powerful character, and if you actually know him, well, you know how powerful he is, so the next showing will leave you speechless.

Thor uses an attack so powerful that it made the entire planet (Ego) shake and left him stunned, Ego was defeated and he was so afraid of Thor´s attack that he swore he would never try to conquer the universe. Look for yourself.

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That´s pretty badass.

Let´s go to the next showing.

- In Mighty Thor #1-6, we are introduced to a seed that would forever end Galactus´ hunger, Silver Surfer gains this knowledge thanks to his cosmic awareness and heads to Asgard (which was in the earth at that moment) along with Galactus to get ahold of that seed. A battle between Thor and Silver Surfer takes place, but I´ll talk about that later. What I want to show here is that Thor and Odin had a battle with Surfer and Galactus, and during that battle Thor was able to do this.

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I don´t think I need to explain to anyone how powerful and durable Galactus is, so there is no need to remark how impressive it is that Thor managed to actually hurt and damage the devourer of worlds.

- In the same story arc, when Surfer arrives to Asgard to get ahold of the seed, Thor thinks he has hostile intentions and attacks him, during the fight, Thor headbutts Surfer and managed to dent Norrin´s forehead, something we had never seen happen before, although it didn´t severely damage Surfer, I think it is worth to note considering how durable is his skin.

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- In Thor: God of Thunder, in the first two story arcs called "God Butcher" and "God Bomb", we were introduced to Gorr, a being decided to kill every single god in the universe, there comes a point in which Thor has a head to head battle with Gorr in space, and Thor was hitting him so hard that nearby planets/moons began to crack, this happens specifically in "Thor: God of Thunder #9".

It is important to note two things in here, the narration states that Thor is hitting as hard as he can, he is exhausting himself with each hit, but he was also weakened, the narration also let us now that the necrosword is burrowing deeper in his flesh and eating him from the inside, so while he actually was exhausting himself with each hit, he was weakened as well, so he wasn´t unleashing all the power he would normally do if he went all out.

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There are some people who believe Thor was in those planets when they were shattered, which I find ridiculous considering that is not true at all, the proof is right in front of your eyes, in the scan above, in the bottom right of the page, you can see a distant planet/moon being shattered, proving that Thor´s strikes were in fact so powerful that they destroyed distant planets/moons. Another claim that I have seen from people trying to discredit this feat, is that in space, it´s impossible to crack distant objects because there is nothing to carry the shockwaves but comics usually don´t care about science, they don´t care if it´s scientifically possible to crack a distant object in space or not, the intention of the story was very clear, Thor´s strikes were so powerful they destroyed distant planets/moons, I can assure you Jason Aaron wasn´t thinking in science and if it was possible to actually do that, his purpose is to tell a compelling story, and the intention of that panel is very clear.

- In the event "Avengers vs X-Men" a team of Secret Avengers went into space to try and intercept the Phoenix Force before her arrival to earth, Thor decides to attack and momentarily knocks out the Phoenix Force, I honestly wouldn´t say he actually knocked it out considering 5 seconds later it consumes a planet and proceeds to defeat all the Secret Avengers with no effort, but Thor was the only one able to do some kind of damage to the Phoenix Force.

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Hickman, the writer of the issue stated that Thor in fact managed to damage it.

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- In Age of Ultron #0.1, Spider-Woman went missing, so the Avengers went in a mission to find her, in that mission they encounter M.O.D.O.K, who proceeds to state that their attacks are useless, that his shields were capable of withstanding a nuclear attack, then Thor proceeds to effortlessly one shot him, meaning Odinson can effortlessly unleash the power of a nuclear attack.

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- Thor can effortlessly destroy multiple sentinels like they are made of paper, as it was seen during the story arc called Kang Dynasty, especifically in "Avengers (1998) #49". As nost probably know, the Sentinels routinely give plenty of trouble to the X-Men, so this is quite impressive.

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- In a retelling of a previous battle Thor had with Fafnir in "The Mighty Thor #341", Odinson defeated the dragon by splitting the earth asunder, the strike was so powerful that it swallowed Fafnir to the center of the earth, Thor basically striked so hard that he shattered hundreds of square miles of the earth´s crust.

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- In the story arc called Blood and Thunder, Thor is believed to have something called warrior´s madness which increases his strength tenfold, but it was later stated by Odin and Warlock that Thor was never in warrior´s madness, he was just bloodlusted and stopped holding back, so everything Thor did during this story arc, was under his own normal strength and power.

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So with that out of the way we can go to the next feats that occured during this same story arc called Blood and Thunder.

- BRB was the first to engage in a battle with Thor, he is considered to be Thor´s equal in power, yet the Odinson easily defeated and humilliated BRB to the point of almost killing him, during that battle, Thor punched him so hard that the planet in which they were standing shattered to pieces. Don´t be fooled by the image, it looks like it´s not planet sized, but during the issue we can see that it is perfectly planet sized, I would say it´s just an art mistake the way the shattered planet was drawn, but the intention is clear and considering we had actually seen it was planet sized in the same issue, this is a perfectly legit instance of Thor busting a planet.

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Like I said, Thor almost killed BRB, and he would have done so if Silver Surfer hadn´t interrupted, just when Thor was about to do his final strike to kill the horse face, Norrin arrived to save him, but he suffered the same fate as BRB, he got stomped by Thor, and just when Odinson was about to defeat him, Adam Warlock arrived and they fought, just like his orevious battle, Thor had a clear upper hand, Norrin returned to battle to aid Warlock, yet they were still unable to defeat the thunder god. The Infinity Watch arrived to aid Warlock, but then again Thor emerged victorious and most notoriously, he defeated Power Gem Drax with a couple of punches.

So here we have Thor defeating several powerhouses without a second of rest, pretty impressive.

I would post scans of this but I can´t considering this took place in 3 entire issues, but I just gave you the name of the story arc, if you want to see it by yourselves, go and read Blood and Thunder, I highly recommend it, it´s really good.

- I present to you, Glory.

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Well, guess what, Thor damaged it.

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There are not much feats for Glory, I have only read that appearence from her, but one can notice by reading the story that this being is extremely powerful, it has the power of 10,000 pantheons, the greek pantheon has around 300 gods, some probably have more, some less, so let´s leave it at 300, that would mean that Glory has the power of at least 3,000,000 gods, and Thor was hurting that being, a being with the combined durability of 3,000,000 gods.

- Now here we have Thor pummeling aside the Living Talismans who were beating Odin and had been just amped by an energy attack by Odin, seeing as they can absorb energy and actually stated themselves they were amped to living energy creatures.

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- In Fear Itself, Thor made Odin scream out in pain with a strike, this is very impressive if we take into consideration how powerful and durable the All-Father is, just to give you an example, Odin took a blast to the face from both Thanos and Silver Surfer without even moving an inch.

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Yet, Thor was able to do this.

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- Also during Fear Itself another impressive feat happened. Several people were amped during the event, and that included Thing, he got amped to the point of effortlessly stomping and humilliating Red Hulk, and I don´t think I need to explain anyone why that is impressive, while Rulk is not near Hulk, he is still a powerhouse with an insane durability and strength, albeit it was stated by MODOK that Rulk was getting stomped because he wasn´t using his absorption ability.

Yeah, but still, the fact that Thing stomped Red Hulk even without his absobing ability is pretty impressive because Red Hulk without using his absorbtion abilities was powerful enough to make an earthquake throughout the entire continent in his figh with Doc Green, so being able to stomp a being that casually produces earthquakes in his fights is really impressive.

Why would I mention this ? Well, because Thor one shotted the same amped Thing that humilliated Rulk in Fear Itself.

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No Mjolnir

Now Thor is also very powerful without his hammer, many people think he is much weaker but that´s not true, while his striking power does diminish to a degree, he still strikes damn hard with his fists.

- In "The Mighty Thor #338" Beta Ray Bill and Thor had a fight in which the winner would get to keep mjolnir, and for it to be a fair fight, they were removed of any weapons making this a sheer fist to fist fight. Thor´s punches were so powerful that they shattered nearby mountains as a side effect of his strikes.

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- In the same issue, at the very end of the fight when both combatants were growing tired as stated by the narration, their combined punch leveled the entire countryside and knocked out both of them in the process.

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- Another impressive hamerless showing came from "The Mighty Thor(dis) #7" where we get a flashback to one of Thor´s old battles, it is worth to note this was a young Thor before he was even worthy of mjolnir. In this issue, Loki amped a regular human named Bodolf to the point that he was able to momentarily defeat the god of thunder, the latter came back for a rematch and won quite handily, Thor punched Bodolf through the entire planet earth from within, this is more impressive than punching someone to another country seeing as Thor punched him so hard that the hundred of miles of the planet earth´s crust couldn´t slow down the inertia exerted from Thor´s punch and Bodolf just shattered everything till he came on the other side of the globe.

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Durability

Blunt Force

- During "Uncanny Avengers #6", Thor tanked headbutt from Apocalypse that sent a shockwave for hundreds of miles. Some may say Thor fled afterwards, but if you read the issue, you can see it´s because he couldn´t penetrate Apocalypse´s armor, not because of the headbutt. Although the narration states Thor might not endure another one, it is worth to note this was a young Thor and he has grown much more powerful since those days.

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-Also, during "Uncanny Avengers #10", Sentry was revived and got a new "alias" called Death Seed Sentry, one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful of his incarnations, he and Thor had a fight in which clearly Bob had the upper hand, but what makes this very impressive is the fact that Thor was tanking Sentry´s punches which were shaking the entire planet.

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- In "Thor Vol. 2 #36", Loki tricked Tanere, a girl destined to save every single living being in the universe, he tricked her and used her soul to power the Destroyer armor, as everybody probably knows, the Destroyer is incredibly powerful, well, guess what, it became even more powerful as stated by Thor, because it was using Tarene´s soul.

Thor was tanking hits from the Destroyer, hits that were causing earthquakes that were felt all the way to Washington, and the fight was in New York, Odinson repeatedly tanked several hits of this magnitude, and although at the end of the fight Thor almost died, he didn´t, he was left very injured and then returned to his human form because the Destroyer had taken the hammer from him, and even in his human form, he was still able to get on his feet and walk .

This fight is two issues long so I can´t post the scans, so if anyone is interested, the battle takes place in "Thor Vol. 2 #36-37".

- In Jurgen´s run, especifically in the dark gods story arc, a dark god named Perrikus subdued all of Asgard with the help of Zelia who had absorbed a portion of Odin´s power. Well, Thor went toe to toe against Perrikus, and while he was clearly losing, he tanked a FULL MINUTE of being punched by Perrikus, punches that according to the narration would vaporize a mountain. At the end Thor had to retreat because he had lost his hammer for more than 60 seconds and was going to turn back into his mortal form of Jake Olson.

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- In "The Mighty Thor (2011) #21" when Thor along with an army of Valhalla faces Surtur, and throughout the battle Thor tanked multiple hits from him without any noteworthy damage. As you probably know, Surtur is a skyfather being who routinely gives Odin plenty of trouble and is sometimes even considered to be slightly more powerful.

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- Thor took continuous beatings from Mangog for five issues straight and kept getting up and up to keep fighting despite being constantly struck by a being who is powered by billions of souls, the scans below are from "The Mighty Thor Vol. 2 #21".

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Thor took all those hits and remained conciouss through it all and didn´t seem all that damaged (besides the first panel from the last scan) seeing as he got back up on his feet and started screaming because Thanos got his hands on a powerful artifact.

Energy Resistance

- During "Thor Vol. 2 #25", the god of thunder tanked Thanosi´s energy blast, just so you guys know, this Thanosi was amped by an artifact and was powerful enough to wipe out a planet in seconds.

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Not only that though, immediately afterwards, he was also struck by Firelord who had to bullrush Thor in order to get him out of the energy field, and the god of thunder took all of that without major damage.

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- In a story arc called The Seed that took place on Mighty Thor #1-6, Silver Surfer blasted Thor and it didn´t seem to bother him much considering he got back up like nothing had happened, albeit he was wearing an armor that could have amped his durability, but we don´t know to what extent, and considering Thor has tanked Norrin´s blasts a hundred times in the past, I don´t think this armor had anything to do with it.

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- In Thor #387, a doomsday missile that was capable of busting a planet was used and an unconscious Thor was caught in the explosion, some people say he didn´t actually tanked the bomb, but only the shockwaves, well that´s ridiculous, in the scan you can clearly see Thor was inside the missile´s explosion range. There is some context in that feat that could be misinterpreted, but I´ll explain it.

Here is the scan of the doomsday missile.

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Now, let´s go to the context that often gets misinterpreted.

Thor was already knocked out before that bomb exploded, meaning he was very weakened and still managed to survive a planet busting blast, the team that launched the missile was watching the things that were happening, one of them states that Thor may have avoided the bomb and that the shockwaves alone should be enough to kill him, but as we can see in the scan above, Thor in fact was within the missile´s explosion range.

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As you can read above, they had no idea what they were hitting, they didn´t know it was the thunder god, they just assumed it was a mortal man/alien, so they had no idea at all what Thor´s capabilities were, and that the missile didn´t kill him, it just knocked him out, although he was previously knocked out so we don´t know if the missile would have actually knocked him out. The team finds Thor unconscious and they still have no idea who he is, so they take him to a chamber to heal him because they needed him fully restored.

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So what we have here is an unconscious and weakened Thor surviving a planet busting missile, albeit he needed to be healed afterwards so he could be a hundred percent fine, but due to the team that healed him not knowing who he was and his capabilities, they couldn´t have known that Thor didn´t need their help, although it would have taken him longer to awake, we can be sure that Thor only needed their help to get fully restored, but he could have awoken by himself, albeit not fully restored. Another important thing to note is that Thor was already knocked out before the missile detonated, and knocked out equals weakened, so if Thor would have been awake and a hundred percent fine, he would have probably tanked the missile with less problem, although that´s only speculation.

- Thor tanks city level attacks with no problem whatsoever and you can see an example in "Avengers (1998) #49" when Kang wipes out an entire city with a blast, yet Thor was unharmed and was more worried about all the civilian casualties.

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Temperature Resistance

- In a crossover called "Everything Burns", Thor and an army faced Surtur, the latter sent his demons after Thor and took him to a lake completely made of Surtur´s flames which are hotter than the sun, Thor was unable to do an AOE attack due to the environmental disadvantage seeing as it is impossible for a lighting to be produced inside a lake made of fire.

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As you can see in the above scans which happened in the crossover, specifically in "The Mighty Thor (2011) #20", several of these pirana-like demons surrounded Odinson and he just kept shaking them off, it is worth mentioning that this battle between the demons and Thor took two entire issues which makes the showing even more impressive, Thor withstood being constantly attacked and surrounded by these demons while at the same time being in flames hotter than the sun for an entire two issues. Thor had given up because he saw no way of geting out of the all consuming flames (as named throughout the arc) and just stopped fighting, even then, the demons were still unable to do significant damage and after Hela BFR´ed Thor out of the flames, he was still completely fine and basically unharmed.

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The scans above this sentence are from "Journey into Mystery #644" which is the next issue where the story continues from "The Mighty Thor (2011) #20".

Piercing resistance

- In "Thor: God of Thunder #9", he was repeatedly stabbed by the necrosword, it was burrowing deeper in his flesh and eating him from the inside as stated by the narration, the necrosword is an incredibly powerful item capable of inflicting damage to skyfathers like Old King Thor, it is worth to note that Thor got ultimately defeated by Gorr though, but he did tank getting stabbed by the necrosword.

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- During the Dark Gods saga, specifically in "Thor Vol. 2 #10" Thor had a battle against a dark god named Perrikus who was actually on a higher tier than the god of thunder himself, he and Zelia had subdued all of Asgard just to give you an idea of how powerful they are, Perrikus was even capable of slicing mjolnir in two, in the battle he used fleshpiercing darts on Thor (from the very same weapon that sliced mjolnir) and the latter was practically unaffected by them.

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Thor has already shown he can take stabs from Jarnjborn, namely in Rick Remender´s "Uncanny Avengers #17" where Thor was stabbed by one of the Apocalypse twins with the famous axe and didn´t inflict any serious or lasting damage to the god of thunder.

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- Another occasion similar to this comes from "Uncanny Avengers Vol.1 #6" where (again) Thor is not that much affected by Jarnbjorn.

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- Slashing and stabbing attacks have been proven innefective against Thor in the past, not only once, or twice but several times actually and there are enough instances to suffice that Spawn´s chains won´t be able to do major damage to the god of thunder, one of the examples comes from "The Mighty Thor #614" where the Disir were unable to cut Thor even though they tried for quite a prolonged time.

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You may ask why is this impressive, well, let me tell you that within the same story arc, the Disir cut to pieces an asgardian at the speed of thought, they cut through him like a knife on butter, it was quite a brutal dead for the asgardian, yet like I mentioned, the disir failed to do any significant damage to Thor.

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Speed

This section will be divided in three:

  • Combat speed
  • Reaction speed
  • Travel speed

Combat speed

- During The Mighty Thor #290, Thor faced a deviant called "El Toro Rojo" but this deviant was more powerful than any other, so powerful that he went toe to toe with Thor and tanked several blows from Mjolnir, and during that battle Thor dodged several attacks from "El Toro Rojo", thus he complimented his speed.

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- In this instance from Thor #35, a future Gladiator went back in time to the present to kill Thor because his actions in the future threatened the universe, but he couldn´t do it, Thor proved too much too him, and what is even more impressive is the fact that Thor repeatedly punched Kallark who was unable to react, and we are talking about the guy who has fought in nanoseconds, yet he was unable to react to several punches from Odinson.

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- In "The Mighty Thor #341" a woman (Lorelei) was used as a trap to lure Thor to fight Fafnir, she was hanging atop of building-sized tall construction machine. As you will see in the scan, it is quite tall and there is a bulding besides to compare its height, Thor climbed the building so fast that a man in the scene could not finish his sentence before Thor got halfway up the building.

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Reaction speed

- In The Mighty Thor #127, a character whom Odin considered an ally was given the Odin Force, but he used it to take over Asgard, the only one left was Thor, during their battle, there comes a moment in which he is going to get struck by 3 giant pieces of rock that according to the narration were going at "unabated speed", yet Thor easily dodged the three of them.

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- In this other instance which took place in The Mighty Thor #130, Hercules was taken advantage by Pluto and made him sign a contract which would finally free him from the netherworld and Hercules would have to take his place, the only way out of that would be if Herc could find someone to battle for his freedom, Thor went to his aid and Pluto ordered the netherworld to attack him, during that attack, they try to use a blast on Thor, and you all know that blasts travel at an insane speed, yet Odinson reacted and moved so fast that he grabbed some guys and placed them in front of him to use them as a shield to block the blast.

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- This one happened in "Thor #9" when Replicus fired a blast at Thor, and the latter blocked it by spinning mjolnir to create a shield, he not only placed mjolnir in front of the blasts, he made it spin so the wind would create a shield, that´s even faster than just blocking the blast.

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- Countered a speedblitz from a bloodlusted Sentry during a Siege tie in, when Osborn´s Dark Avengers invaded Asgard because they considered it was a threat to earth and its people.

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- Let´s see another instance of a failed attempt at speedblitzing Thor which happened in Busiek´s very first story arc in "Avengers Vol. 3" when the Squadron Supreme was brainwashed and started attacking the Avengers, Hyperion went for Thor and tried to bullrush him, but he failed in finishing his attack because Thor reacted and hit him with the hammer.

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- During The Mighty Thor #137, some trolls captured Lady Sif, so the thunder god went to her rescue, but before he could find her, he encountered Ulik, they had a battle, and during the fight the narration states that Ulik moved with blinding speed, yet Thor easily dodged several punches from him.

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- In the same issue, a super bow fired by the trolls was directed at Thor, and he shattered it to pieces, showing he can react and move his limbs at blurring speeds.

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- In his encounter with Tarene (Thor Girl) during Thor #34, they had a brief battle, but the impressive thing here is that she tried to strike Thor with a lightning, but he easily reacted to it and blocked it with Mjolnir, showing that the thunder god can react and block lightning fast attacks.

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- In The Mighty Thor #411 Thor had a fight with Juggernaut, but Thor had been getting seizures and weakened by them, this happened during their fight, but just before that happened, Juggernaut threw a bus at Thor and he moved his limbs so fast that he created a whirlwind and moved mjolnir at lightning speeds before the bus hit him.

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- During "The Mighty Thor #337" Nick Fury alerted Thor of powerful spaceship coming to earth (which turned out to be Beta Ray Bill´s spaceship), so Thor went into space to intercept it, the spaceship was travelling several times the speed of light as it was stated, Odinson stopped in the middle of space and the spaceship crossed beside him and he was fast enough to detect it and immediately follow it.

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- Thor had no problem in countering a bullrush from Iron Man during in JMS´ run, and although he had the Odin Force, it doesn´t really affect the user´s speed, it never has done such thing.

Iron Man went to talk with Thor (who had the Odin Force) about the superhero registration act, and that it was a law to be registered, that he should do so if he didn´t want to get in trouble, Thor refused calling Stark a coward for hunting his friends, then a fight started, if it can be called that, considering Thor completely humilliated Iron Man. During the course of battle, Iron Man tried to speedblitz Thor, who countered the blitz by hitting him with his hammer.

(It is important to note that Odin Force doesn´t affect the users´ speed at all, just so you know)

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Iron Man has super speed, when Stark received Extremis, he faced Mallen an extremis powered person, and Stark was so fast that he was right in front of Mallen at several feet of distance, and then he was behind him, he wasn´t even a blur, he moved so fast that he just disappeared of Mallen´s sight and appeared behind him, yet Thor has never had a problem defeating Iron Man, hell, just look at my scan above, he had no trouble countering a speedblitz from Iron Man.

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- In "The Mighty Thor #341" Thor faced a foe he had defeated ages ago, namely Fafnir, a dragon that grew more powerful since the last time they battled, during the fight, Fafnir used his fire breath on Thor but the latter dodged it noting that his great speed enabled him to do so.

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Combat Skills

- In this instance, Thor was powerless and had the stats of a mortal, he faced some thugs and stomped them, although he mentioned they were untrained, it is important to note they had guns and knifes, yet Thor was so skilled and fast he effortlessly stomped the group of thugs.

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- In here, Thor was again powerless and with the stats of a human, the Zodiac had been attacking New York, and Thor along with Captain America were fighting against a bunch of Zodiac´s soldiers, and while powerless, Thor had no problem keeping up and outperforming Steve to the point of even saving his life.

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Clearing misconceptions

- In "Hulk Annual 2001" there is a fight between Thor and Hulk that is an entire issue long, during that battle, after Hulk was knocked out he awakes and punches Thor three times, some people use this instance to say Hulk 3 shotted Thor, but that´s not actually true, if we take a look at what happened, it is unknown if Thor was knocked out or not, I´ll show you the scan and then explain why.

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The narration says "Thor, it seems, has been beaten beyond reason, whether he is alive or dead, The Hulk doesn´t care, however, the Odinson yet still lives, and rises". The key word is "seems" the narration says "it seems", so there is no concrete proof Thor was knocked out, and even if he was, he rised 5 seconds later, so that hardly counts as a knockout.

So for starters, the narration clearly states that it is unknown if he was knocked out, but it becomes clear he wasn´t when he awakes 5 seconds after being punched by Hulk. When have you seen someone that got knocked out and awakes 5 seconds later ?? I´ll answer for you, never, because when someone stands 5 seconds after being punched, it means he was never knocked out, just that he was badly hurt.

- Some people like to use an instance where Thor supossedly got one shotted by Galadiator which happened in Thor #34, but there is some important context in there that when you look at it, it becomes really clear Thor was never one shotted by Gladiator. First let´s see the scans where this happens.

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Now, let´s take a look at the context and give some explanation.

When Thor suffers an injury and he returns to his mortal form, the injury stays with him, but given that he has become a mortal, the wound becomes much more serious and lethal whereas that same injury while in his god form wouldn´t have been of much trouble. So, when he is in his mortal form with a lethal injury, if he transforms into Thor then that injury is nowhere as near as lethal.

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That´s exactly what happened, Gladiator didn´t really defeat Thor, he got rid of Mjolnir and punched Thor, and because he lost his hammer , he returned to his mortal form and the punch from Gladiator became lethal to his mortal body, not to Thor.

This is what happens after the scans I posted above of Gladiator getting rid of Mjolnir and punching Thor. We no longer see Thor, we just see Jake, he was even turned into Jake before crashing into the street.

To show you it was in fact his mortal form the one that got knocked out, look at the following.

She is someone who knows Jake very well and she states "I am almost stupid for doing this, but that almost looked like.....oh my, it´s him" and the next page has Jake unconscious in fire and the girl screaming "Jake", meaning Thor returned to his mortal form before he crashed in the streets.

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The fact that when Jake returns to his godly form and injuries that were lethal are not anyomore is clearly shown when Amora comes to his aid, and turns Jake Olson back to Thor and his injuries don´t seem to bother him anymore.

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Conclusion, Thor was not knocked out by Gladiator, Thor received a punch that he normally would tank (in the scans from the battle you can see Thor actually tanked a punch from Gladiator previous to his loss of Mjolnir), but due to the loss of his hammer, when he returned to his mortal form, Gladiator´s punch became lethal to Jake´s body.

Extras

- As seen in The Mighty Thor #135, pressure points don´t do much to Thor, he was attacked by Man-Beast, a being created by High Evolutionary, a being a million years more advanced who had all the knowledge of every single form of combat that has and will be created, he tried to use a pressure point on Thor and it was useless, take a look for yourself.

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- In The Mighty Thor #310, we have a battle between Thor and Mephisto and it is important to note that the battle took place in Mephisto´s realm. The reason they fought was because Mephisto considered that the Odinson´s interventions in the affairs of mortals was not good for his realm because more people were not commiting acts of evil due to Thor interfering, so Mephisto decided to face Thor on a battle to end him once and for all, but he couldn´t, Thor (from my point of view) had the upper hand for most of the fight, and I don´t think I need note how damn impressive that is considering how powerful Mephisto is in his own realm, yet he wasn´t able to defeat Thor.

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I will be updating this blog.

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MCU Movie Ranking (Results)

11. Thor: The Dark World / 138 Points

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10. Iron Man 2 / 148 Points

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9. Iron Man 3 / 156 Points

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8. The Incredible Hulk / 207 Points

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7. Thor / 256 Points

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6. Captain America: The First Avenger / 283 Points

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5. Iron Man / 412 Points

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4. Avengers: Age of Ultron / 419 Points

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3. Guardians of the Galaxy / 428 Points

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2. The Avengers / 489 Points

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1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier / 510 Points

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Top 10 Marvel Story Arcs (Voting)

Rules

- Name your Top 10 Marvel story arcs.

- Number 1 being your favorite, number 10 being your least favorite.

- Your first pick will be receiving 10 points, the second 9 and so on.

- Name series followed by the story arc.

- No events allowed.

Example :

1- Thor God of Thunder / The God Butcher (10 Points)

2- Amazing Spider-Man / Kraven´s Last Hunt (9 Points)

3- Invincible Iron Man / World´s Most Wanted (8 Points)

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10- Captain America / Winter Soldier (1 Point)

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Best Marvel Runs (Results) !!

After 2 weeks of voting, these are the Top 10 Marvel Runs according to the viners.

Top 10 :

10. Astonishing X-Men / Joss Whedon - 35 Points

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9. Thor : God of Thunder / Jason Aaron - 37 Points

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8. Uncanny X-Force / Rick Remender - 38 Points

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7. New X-Men / Grant Morrison - 48 Points

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6. Incredible Hulk / Peter David - 50 points

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5. The Ultimates / Mark Millar - 59 Points

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4. Uncanny X-Men / Chris Claremont - 59 Points

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3. Ultimate Spider-Man / Bendis - 64 Points

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2. Amazing Spider-Man / Strazcynski - 78 Points

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1. Captain America / Ed Brubaker - 81 Points

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So, what do you think ?

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Best Marvel Runs (Voting)

Rules

- Name your Top 10 Marvel Runs.

- Number 1 being your favorite, number 10 being your least favorite.

- Your first pick will be receiving 10 points, the second 9 and so on.

- Just Marvel Runs

- Name comic followed by its writer

Example :

1- Ultimate Spider-Man / Bendis (10 points)

2- Amazing Spider-Man / Strazcynski (9 points)

3- The Mighty Thor / Walter Simonson (8 points)

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10- Captain America / Ed Brubaker (1 point)

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