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And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts And I looked, and behold a pale horse And his name that sat on him was death, ...

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@the_magister: I'm not really back to debating and probably never will be, but I am always around.

@subline: I'm sorry mate but I'm not really that invested in battles anymore so I just can't find the motivation to write a post. Maybe Magister or nfactor1995 would like to take you up on the subject.

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@subline said:
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Restrict him to feats from any single season he's been in, and Matt still wins.

No chance. Only peak Matt could win this. He wins comfortably though at his peak.

Why? I can understand S1 Matt losing, but post S2 Matt beat Nobu, wrecked Frank, was better than Elektra, beat a bunch of Hand Ninjas etc. S3 Matt was considerably better than Dex, which should at least be on par with May's showing of stomping Skye (since Dex > Skye).

Matt is undeniably more agile with feats from any single season, his physicals are better and he's faster in S1 / S2 given his Arrow timing feats.

About 7 months late on the reply there mate.

Season 2 Matt should beat her, inexperienced season 1 Matt loses and injured season 3 Matt loses as well. Dex wasn't a really good fighter tho, not close to May's level anyway so not really relevant for scaling.

Matt is undeniably more agile with feats from any single season, his physicals are better and he's faster in S1 / S2 given his Arrow timing feats.

More agile? Not sure. Definitely uses his agility more. That's more on the fighting style than anything and isn't really a determining factor in a fight. Physicals? No. His endurance is better but his durability is inferior. May is arguably stronger imo due to feats against superhuamans. Matt is faster for sure.

He just doesn't have the feats from season 1 or 3 to beat her. He struggles with a lot of fodder that May would burn through with no problem. Prime Matt should/could beat her.

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Bamford claimed Ra's had close to instantaneous reaction speed.

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The BTS for Ra's vs Oliver. He says that he fights with no wasted motion, has an near impenetrable guard and has near instantaneous reaction speed, and that is why Oliver can't even lay a hand on him. I saved the video for the RT but it has been taken down from YT because of copyright.

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Bamford claimed Ra's had close to instantaneous reaction speed.

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#8  Edited By TheSuperor

They are probably superior to the LOTR guys up close but will suffer heavily without an archer.

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People are under the assumption that Ra’s Oliver even though Oliver bested him in Season 3?

General consensus is that Ra's wanted to lose to Oliver so that Oliver had to take his place as Ra's.

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Something, something CW doesn't have martial arts applicable for real life, something, something, chokehold, something something.