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@geraldofvengerberg: The rest didn't show much, so I'm cautiously optimistic til the full trailer tomorrow. But, my gods, that one part just stuck out so poorly to me.

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@geraldofvengerberg: Not trying to be negative, but just let her fly. I'm sorry, that looks dumb, her essentially "web swinging" on lightning IMHO. Honestly seems like something out of a cartoon aimed at 5 year olds cause they'll think it's cool.

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@underfire47: You are either trolling or don't know Thor's history past the last 8 years cause you are seriously lowballing Thor to say he's not even a planet buster.

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@professorrespect: First off, you're making a distinction no one else nor the initial question made. No one, including myself said that Thor is multiplanetary with strength alone. (Though I could make that argument). Most everyone here is talking about Thor, full power, Mjolnir in hand, no amps or buffs.

Second, you're kinda proving my point with that Jason Aaron comment. He, in his own words, wanted to turn Thor, "into a god that he could believe in". So he kept tearing him down and "humanizing" Thor. Aaron's own inconsistent, and IMO crap writing, doesn't erase the almost 60 years of Thor comics, history, and feats that came before.

PS. When I say inconsistent, I'm not even talking about Aaron being inconsistent with the rest of Thor's history. He's inconsistent within his own writing and stories.

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@alphamon: Yea, either way. Like you said, it's a good feat.

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@takenstew22: Sure sure. You're not wrong. Fair enough. Then substitute that feat with him pushing against the World Engine. If I remember correctly he didn't have any items besides Mjolnir then.

Also, didn't he defeat Majeston Zelia of the Dark Gods that had absorbed Odin's power with a single God Blast/Full power lightning?

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@professorrespect: Characters being inconsistent is a faulty argument IMO. Superman is a regular planet buster/star level character, but then "struggles" with villains like Atomic Skull or Parasite. Wonder Woman has gone toe to toe with Superman and Doomsday as well as fought Darkseid and other gods, but then "struggles" with Giganta and recently been shot and tagged by Doctor Poison's squad. Hel, Hulk recently had a fight with the Thing, which by consistency standards, should've shown Hulk instantly stomp Thing.

When written well, Thor is at lowest multiplanetary. When fighting Gorr, his blows shattered the planet he was on and cracked a planet in the distance. He's hit a Celestial hard enough to crack the Celestial's armor and shook the planet they were on. While mind controlled and not holding back, he's beaten Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock at the same time.

Hel, speaking of Silver Surfer, he couldn't harm Durok the Demolisher, a character who previously stomped Thor and Surfer, he even broke the latters board. But during Ragnarok, Thor killed Durok by bear hugging him and unleashing all of his power. Without Mjolnir.

My only real point bringing any of this up is that it's incredibly disingenuous to use character inconsistency as a hit against a character. Especially when they have more than a few instances of being at a certain level. Writers change. Different writers and teams have varying opinions and what makes characters "relevant" or "relatable". Some writers decide that a regal, powerful, prince of Norse gods is boring and needs to be humanized to sell. Others think that humanizing mythical characters defeats the entire purpose.

Using "inconsistency" to lowball or dismiss a characters feats is just as disingenuous as using hyperbole or hearsay to highball or "wank" a character. Not attacking you specifically, just putting it out there for the discussion.

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Just found this for anyone who wants to use or argue this.

http://hero-envy.blogspot.com/2012/05/thor-vs-silver-surfer.html?m=1

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@takenstew22: Amp generally means an outside source or outlier of power. Just his anger and/or madness wouldn't qualify. If anything, that's just forced Warriors Madness, which is one of his "abilities". So still not amped, still a win.

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@takenstew22: He wasn't amped, just mind controlled (by whatever the "Mind Valkyrie is) and didn't hold back. So bloodlusted? Sure. But not amped.