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Umm? Surfer post-Annihilation stomped Bill while Apologizing
On another occasion,Bill has one shotted Radd as well, so there's that; and Radd doing well against Bill on another occasion doesn't erase from existence the fact that Surfer has not been as effective against magical opponents on several occasions. That instance of Surfer having an occasion to "stomp" Bill doesn't make magic lightning come down and change the fact that magic has been effective against Radd go away.
and having trouble against Galactus is now a bad feat???
Forgive me for saying so, but you appear to be suffering from a bit of reading comprehension difficulty in this matter. Please show me where I claimed "having trouble against Galactus is now a bad feat". I defy you to produce where I typed those words. Let me revisit what I stated verbatim: (even Galuctus, who has much more Power Cosmic has publicly expressed his disdain for it because of what it's unpredictable qualities have done to him-Galactus-in fights). If you don't understand what that sentence means, let me help you out-if even Galactus, who of course has more Power Cosmic than Surfer, has issues with magic, then Radd has even more issues with magic. And that is pertinent because Batson is endowed with magic, and plenty of it---so Surfer's powers might not be as effective against Shazam, the same way it wasn't against others who are magic tinged.
Batson has nice durrabillity which does not translate into matter manipulation protection.
(A) Yes it does, just as Superman's durability does (Batson and Kal are virtually equals, plus Batson is composed of magic, which as noted before, dilutes Radd's effectiveness at times).
(B) Once again, there is no guarantee Radd would get the chance to try that tactic before he is assaulted by Shazam first.
Two people would be in the fight, remember?
Spectre is the biggest jobber in comics he's a literal plot device who is there just to make the story more intense.
Why is it that when something happens that you don't like, or counters what you believe, it's automatically "PIS" or someone is a "jobber"? SMH.
His power levels are so hard to put down. Also just because Captain Marvel is a being who utilizes magic does not translate into him gaining as much HAX as other magic users do.
Shazam withstanding a tesseract bomb because of his magic that others couldn't says he does.
Classic Strange would solo this team with a twiddle of his finer, why are you bringing him up lol.
Classic Strange might could do that; on the other hand, he has been beaten to the punch, hurt, and even KO'd by the likes of Black Panther, Spider-Man, Luke Cage, Mantis, Pile Driver, Hulk, and more---so he might not. Anyone of this DC team has the combat speed and striking power to beat Strange to the punch and take him out; I bring Strange up because he is an example of magic causing Radd's powers to not be as effective as usual
"LOL".
Also the reason Sentry doesn't do it to Thor is cause he acct has different types of mollecules than the average person
Not proven, and irrelevant even if that were so; there is no proof the "mollecules" of J'onn and Batson aren't beyond Sentry's ability to transmute, either.
---it's not a sure thing Surfer's matter manipulation would work on Shazam, for sure, and, given Batson's combat speed, Radd would even get the chance to try that (there would be two people in such a battle; you don't think Shazam is going to stand still with his arms at his sides, a dull look, a slack jaw, and just let Radd do whatever he wants to do to him, do you?)
Because of Shazam's magic, combat speed, and striking power, this battle would appear to be anyone's game, too.
Being a magical being does not translate into having matter manipulation resistance. Also, Surfer is not a magician he uses his abilities subconsciously. He does need to twiddle his fingers around like Doctor Doom and The Wizard. I'm not seeing how any of the things you listed prevent him from molecule manipulated by Sentry or Silver Surfer.
Perhaps because you don't want to see it. Strange "twiddles his fingers" to produce magic that confounds Surfer's power; Batson is magic that can possibly do the same. Just because you proclaim it wouldn't give Radd difficulty doesn't mean that is so. I'm not seeing how you can make such definitive assertions without proof other than because you say so.
J'onn J'onzz legitimately has the combat speed, strength and striking power to possibly KO Radd; can phase to avoid all his attacks; and has such great molecular control of his body he can regenerate from being a stain on the wall, or being obliterated to the point that only his arm was left.
Sentry can do this as well. This still does not prevent him from being matter transmuted. All of these guys have the combat speed to keep up. Nobody is speed blitzing anybody.
Right-therefore you cannot claim Sentry would-for sure-act before J'onn or Shazam would get to him first. If "all of these guys have the combat speed to keep up" and nobody is speed blitzing anybody" then how can you possibly say anything but that it's a toss up on who gets to who first?
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Your insisting Sentry or Radd will act first for sure simply because you say so doesn't work.
Wouldn't help Surfer, as Superman still has resisted everything he could do to him multiple times (which you can see if you read the previous post).
Umm Surfer has absorbed energy from a star and other sources before. Why wouldn't it help him?
Superman regularly "absorbs energy" from the biggest star around-the sun. And, as revealed in the "Annihilation" story arc, The Surfer's skin is designed to absorb various energies from beta particles to light. He is constantly being charged from hundreds of nearby stars and energies from distant galaxies. He can change this absorption into reflection if he chooses ---and this is how Superman's powers work: Superman can also absorb solar energies of other class stars such as white stars and also when he absorbed the solar energies of a blue star that increased his abilities to a higher degree and gave him additional abilities. The light of dwarf stars, pulsars, and quasars also grants Superman different abilities----Superman will be casually soaking up the star energy that Radd casually absorbs. Superman can literally absorb solar energy just by standing next to Surfer. Any amp Radd gets, Superman can get a matching amp. That's why it won't help him.
He can also use that extra energy to amp his teammates.
Superman, with his attosecond and above combat speed that he uses more often and better than Radd is just going to let Surfer do that? What will he be doing in the meantime? Daydreaming about Lois? Not to mention, J'onn with his own fantastic speed-not to mention the speed of thought- won't TP Radd before he does something like that?
You really do think this is a one sided fight, where all the DC characters are just little practice dummies who will stand still while their opponents do whatever they want to do, don't you?
C'mon, man...
Sentry can probably kill The Man Of Steel with energy projection,
I never said that lol.
I didn't say you did. "LOL".
Also none of the example you showcassed are Superman tanking he was clearly injured by all of them lol.
In one instance, Superman had his normal durability stripped away by prolonged exposure to blistering red sun radiation, yet he still withstood a supernova '50 times bigger than Kepler's supernova". Showing some pain while withstanding an enormous trauma like that even when you are depowered is no "shame".
"LOL".
Some of those feats are absorbing sunlight which is what he does lol.
All of those feats did not involve Supes absorbing normal sunlight.
"LOL".
Absorbing a half a galaxy destroying amount of ANTI sun could have ripped apart a solar absorber like Kal.
"LOL".
Also nobody hear fires solar radiation with the exception of Sentry but that was only one occasion in which Iron Man told him to charge him with solar radation.
So what? That doesn't change that all of Superman's durability feats show he can take anything Sentry dishes out.
BATTLE FIELD REMOVAL-(B) If all else fails, Kal can BFR Sentry into the Phantom Zone, or, while giving him planet smashing punishment on the way there, super speed rush him onto the Source Wall.
Ummmm. Firstly LOL.
Constantly saying "LOL" does not a rebuttal make.
Second Sentry can tank planet smashing treatment,
Sentry's battle with the much, much slower WWHulk shows Sentry can be beaten to a pulp and overwhelmed, too. If a slow brick like Banner can do that to Sentry, the super fast Superman can do much worse to him
third just no not happening.
Your simply saying "Nuh Uuhhh!" does not a rebuttal make.
Saying this is the equivalent of saying Wally West can bFR Galactus into the speed force
Actually, it's nothing like that, as the power gap between Superman and Sentry is waaaaaaaay less than Wally West Flash and Galactus.
Sentry is on Galactus' level, now?
SMH.
You are so in denial, you just say "Nuh Uhhhhhhhh!" without even thinking things through. Sentry is not so much more '"special" than Darkseid's abstract form or an omniverse threatening planet that he could resist what those beings could not.
For the umpteenth time-"because you say so" is not an acceptable reason why not.
Superman can casually smash meteors-with one shot-big enough to destroy the Earth http://i.imgur.com/b6ISW3b.jpg which means, if Supes can easily smash something that can smash a planet, he can smash a planet itself, and his plowing through those super durable Imperiex Proves is a lot more impressive than overpowering Absorbing Man.
meteors that can oneshot the planet does not mean they are the size of planets.
They don't have to be the size of a planet to destroy them. they just have to be dense enough, which they were. Willfully ignoring what the very story says-that the meteor was going to destroy the planet-doesn't change the fact that it was.
Where did you get the idea that just denying things was legitimately refuting anything?
A meteor 60 miles in diamater can wipe out all Human life on the planet.
Completely irrelevant to the topic at hand
I explained above how actually, Sentry and/or Surfer managing to matter manipulate J'onn and Shazam is not a sure thing.
K you made up some theory that Surfer might not be able to do that to Shazam cause he has magical properties.
I didn't "make up" anything, evidence suggests it. And considering some of the things you stated in your last post, I'd be careful accusing others of "making up" things. Just sayin'.
What bout MMH? And what happened to Sentry?
I honestly don't understand what you're asking here. What about MMH? "What happened to Sentry"? What does that mean?
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