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@kingant27: Sigh.

Even if I bought Sentry hanging with Molecule Man was legit (I don't) but for arguments sake, let's say I did-

Superman showed enough striking power to one shot smash apart Soulfire Darkseid http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111162628/4459883-2197169-owned.jpg

(forcing him to regenerate) an amped version of Darkseid that was a match for The Source, the entity powering all of the super humans, Gods, and Higher Beings in The DC universe. In other instances-

COUNTER VIBRATION-(A) If Superman can match the natural vibrational frequency of the abstract form of Darkseid that was infecting the multiverse, or on another occasion a large, other reality, omniverse threatening, molecularly unstable planet, counter vibrate them, then wipe them out of existence...

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...it defies logic that he can't do the same to a not nearly as large, 6 foot or so humanoid like Sentry.

Those beings are as formidable as Molecule Man, and Superman either showed the power to affect them, or even defeat them.

Not to mention-

BATTLE FIELD REMOVAL-(B) If all else fails, Kal can BFR Sentry into the Phantom Zone, or, while giving him planet smashing punishment on the way there, super speed rush him onto the Source Wall.

So clearly, using any number of techniques, Superman can defeat Sentry.

As for your other points-

The Sentry/Void is leagues above Superman, he effortlessly killed Loki with the Norm Stones.

As I just showed you above, Superman defeated multiverse threatening opponents; but to match a feat directly to Loki, Superman fought the Kryptonian God Cythonna. Here, he goes to the surface of the Sun for a few moments, and becomes powerful enough to match Cythonna blow for blow. The same Cythonna that was capable of matching the attacks of the Pre-Crisis Kryptonian criminals that Superman was forced to execute with her backhand.

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/SunAmpCosmic1.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/SunAmpCosmic2.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/SunAmpCosmic3.jpg.html

A force field that didn't even get scratched from an enraged Terrax who with the same swing has destroyed planets is impressive.

It sure is. But didn't you see the number of force fields I displayed Superman breaking through without much effort in post 14?

Those are even more impressive.

The Sentry's TP is so OP he has subconsciously put his memories into the mind of the comic book writers.

When it comes to OP TP, there aren't much more OP telepaths than Martian Manhunter---and as shown in post 14, Superman has resisted him at least three times, and Superman has resisted other top tier TP's like Eradicator, Neron, and Braniac.

So Sentry using that tactic is not a sure thing to defeat Kal.

He's TP'd all Marvel Earth and the Inhumans on the Moon.

As mentioned before, J'onn has TP'd all of Earth three times, and subconsciously prevented his entire Martian race from entering the After Life.

Sentry's side effects with Photon energies casually destroyed planets while holding back.

As I showed several durability feats of Superman's above planetary, that is irrelevant.

Absorbing solar radiation makes him stronger so Supes will be fuel for him.

??? Solar energy is "fuel" to Superman as well, so what advantage is that supposed to be?

There's just no comparison to the Void, Supes is herald level at best, Void operates way higher.

The evidence I provided in posts 9 and 14 renders your assertions false; Superman is not just "comparable" to Sentry, but superior. Superman is stronger, has better striking power, and is more durable.

Against Sentry:

Superman wins.

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@jay_z94:

You know the drill about tagging me.

Didn't see any of your last post, so it's clear they probably are still going on about this.

Without even bothering to read their usual nonsense, it still remains: Superman absorbed an amount of anti sunlight that the narrations, J'onn, and Heaven itself showed (and multiple sites and people around the world agree) would have destroyed half the galaxy if he hadn't taken that action.

No matter how much they do their usual twist reality into a pretzel routine, as the story makes clear, the energy Megaddon was carrying was enough to cause that level of destruction. No device gave it that power---the power itself had the capacity to do that. A device was holding in that energy; once the device was no more, the energy-a half a galaxy destroying amount of it-would be released, destroying everything in it's path. Except that, instead of that energy being released into the cosmos, it was released into Superman, this action saving countless of billions of lives.

No amount of excess verbiage has, will, or in the future change that.

They can expand as much time as they wish denying that---and it will mean just as much as if I said "2+ 2=4" and they screamed for hours on end after that "Nuh Uh---it's 39!!!"

Or, as much as other "gems" they've performed, like claiming that Thor can move a muscle before a woman several times faster than he (or a man, when facing Superman) is dealt with from one side of the city to the other.

That won't change no matter how much, and how long they amuse me futilely chasing their tail to "debunk" the feat.

They can do that for the next 1,000 pages, and on the one thousand and first, that will be just as true.

I can see him, brow sweating, furiously typing away, going from site to site, jaw clinched, posting this scan and that---

---just knowing they're rocking and rolling, reallllly taking it to me---

---and is still completely, totally, and utterly wrong.

Heh.

I can see an ongoing, ever present source of amusing entertainment is in place.

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@jay_z94: You know the drill about tagging me.

Saw the first few lines of the post, so it's clear they are still going on about this.

Without even bothering to read their usual nonsense, it still remains: Superman absorbed an amount of anti sunlight that the narrations, J'onn, and Heaven itself showed (and multiple sites and people around the world agree) would have destroyed half the galaxy if he hadn't taken that action.

No matter how much they do their usual twist reality into a pretzel routine, as the story makes clear, the energy Megaddon was carrying was enough to cause that level of destruction. No device gave it that power---the power itself had the capacity to do that. A device was holding in that energy; once the device was no more, the energy-a half a galaxy destroying amount of it-would be released, destroying everything in it's path. Except that, instead of that energy being released into the cosmos, it was released into Superman, this action saving countless of billions of lives.

No amount of excess verbiage has, will, or in the future change that.

They can expand as much time as they wish denying that---and it will mean just as much as if I said "2+ 2=4" and they screamed for hours on end after that "Nuh Uh---it's 39!!!"

Or, as much as other "gems" they've performed, like claiming that Thor can move a muscle before a woman several times faster than he (or a man, when facing Superman) is dealt with from one side of the city to the other.

That won't change no matter how much, and how long they amuse me futilely chasing their tail to "debunk" the feat.

They can do that for the next 1,000 pages, and on the one thousand and first, that will be just as true.

I can see him, brow sweating, furiously typing away, going from site to site, jaw clinched, posting this scan and that---

---just knowing they're rocking and rolling, reallllly taking it to me---

---and is still completely, totally, and utterly wrong.

Heh.

I can see an ongoing, ever present source of amusing entertainment is in place.

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@vance_astro: There are many, Many, MANY more examples I could display on top of the ones I already have that proves you are simply willfully ignoring the instances they beat---even, for the most part dominated-top tier competition.

But I'm not going to exhaust myself providing more evidence to someone who has indicated they are simply going to continue to act as if only the times the team was defeated and none of the times they were outstanding "count", or even exist.

What Strange did in the incident you mention doesn't magically, mystically wipe out of existence what the team did before, or all the other exploits that demonstrates their prowess. Otherwise, if we played by those "rules", then the time Dr. Strange did something like that is negated by the time a barely above street leveler like Spider-Man KO'd Strange in straight up, no sneak attack competition (not to mention plenty of other similar incidents) "counts more" than what you mention.

You won't accept that type of double standard for Strange, I'm sure, so why should it be acceptable for the Crew to be saddled with it?

When you have already been presented with instances of them beating up Dr. Strange, Powerman, and Hulk singularly and collectively, Hercules singularly, he and Thor as duo, Iron Man, Namor and Namorita (and making two of the three flee for a time) and The Avengers---not to mention an easy to view incident of Colossus already being defeated by the Crew (with the bizarre excuse of "Colossus is stronger now" as if the Crew stayed frozen in place since then, despite their later exploits showing that's clearly not the case)---it's clear mentioning more is not going to convince you to be reasonable.

When a person wants to Believe What They Want To Believe, nothing-not even demonstrable, observable, see-with-one's-own-eyes evidence will make them concede anything if they don't want to.

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@ghostravage: Tagging me is useless, as from your first post to me when you called me "ignorant" to the last one where you jumped into a A-B conversation to name call me-then expressed shock that I was not interested in conversing with you any longer-I am not interested in what you have to say.

Good grief, why some users think they are owed some sort of fealty no matter how they behave is unknown.

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@jay_z94:

Tagging me was useless, as I am not interested in reading what you have to say in this thread any longer.

Perhaps the next one.

I know this type thinks "getting the last word" to them means they "won" no matter how pointless what they're saying may be.

Which is why I amuse myself making them dance for awhile, until I get bored.

I'm sure they're babbling about the following, so-

It's just ME saying Superman absorbed the anti sunlight bomb---except for http://www.supermanhomepage.com/comics/2000-post-crisis-reviews/c-review-2000.php?topic=jla41http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20104http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=18097 and many more far too numerous to mention including Comic Vine, the very site we are posting on http://comicvine.gamespot.com/mageddon/4005-11277/ not to mention all the people around the world who don't know each other, some of whom don't even particularly "like" Superman, have reached the same conclusion that-like Gravity and Climate Change-Superman absorbing the anti sunlight bomb is a FACT; and have stated as such in countless comment sections on countless pop culture and fantasy/fiction web sites.

But one user knows more than all those other sources all around the world because-reasons.

SMH.

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@jay_z94:

Tagging me was useless, as I am not interested in reading what you have to say in this thread any longer.

Perhaps the next one.

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@jay_z94: Tagging me was useless, as I am not interested in reading what you have to say in this thread any longer.

Perhaps the next one.

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Now then regarding The Void Hound, a few people have tried to delegitimize Diana (and some of her team mates) Void Hound accomplishment, . But is it true that The Void Hound incident doesn't count? Have the JLA members that were present that day withstood similar trauma before? Well-

Superman's durability feats include resisting the virtually nothing can escape, crushing entropy of Black Holes https://static5.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111200299/4436760-1724815-1340779_154613_lightspeed2vm5_super.jpg and https://static2.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11118/111183975/5129381-4643940071-62708.jpg- and even hold one http://i.imgur.com/A9qHb7u.jpg powerful enough to destroy the solar system according to the JLA's sophisticated instrumentation http://i.imgur.com/GGrpYL0.jpgin the palm of his hand for a long while without being torn apart (to do that for a second is incredible); absorbing a half a galaxy destroying amount of anti sunlight from Megaddon http://imgur.com/a/aHR4A and smiling afterwards, indicating he could have taken a lot more, if necessary; withstanding a supernova 50 times bigger than Keppler's supernova despite being in a Suneater and receiving blistering red sun radiation blasts at the time http://imgur.com/a/5fpnT; and this kill shot by Gog on Superman

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff1.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff2.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff3.jpg.html

http://s738.photobucket.com/user/PhilosophiaKMC/media/GogStaff4.jpg.html

Kingdom Gog’s staff is very powerful, because, as it has the combined power of the Emerald Energy of the Guardians of the Universe, the cosmic energy of the Source, and the MAGICAL might of Shazam and Zeus http://i.imgur.com/qDBgsb3.jpg-- oops, to Gog's startled bafflement, Superman withstands the blast without a mark on him then rescues his various JLA and JSA colleagues--all of the above feats are on par with Kal, except for saying "UUUH", tanking blasts from The Void Hound when this devastating, has no capacity to show mercy or "hold back" it's power construct was trying to terminate Kal http://imgur.com/a/ZvaG2 (just a test run of it's blasts destroyed 10 Star Systems in one gohttp://i.imgur.com/2gREOpX.jpg) ---so his Void hound feat is legit.

Wonder Woman's durability feats include withstanding, resisting, and escaping the virtually nothing can escape, all enveloping entropy of Black Holes; receive blood lusted, super speed planet busting blows, deposited almost into the sun, and endure point blank hotter than he sun, Despero one shotting, Parallax blasts deflecting heat vision to the face simultaneously; survive two Imperiex Probe explosions, one shortly after the other, battered but conscious and all limbs still intact (and since The Probes carry a portion of The Big Bang-the force that created reality itself and the multiverse-lowballing as much as possible, even a "portion" of such an explosion would have to be galaxy level, and lowballing even further that the Big Bang only created a single unvierse, considering the feats the Probes pulled off, it would still be solar system level); blocked, then redirected infinite Destructive energies (The combined might of the Greek Pantheon and the Godwave-this is an amazing strength, durability, and stamina feat; Ares' blasts who was in God form at the time, and was a "double God" (God of War and The Dead) and the attacks of enraged Quantum Zealots http://imgur.com/a/dePjx who are above 5th dimensional Imps http://imgur.com/a/728MC

All of the above are on par with The Void Hound incident, renders the claim it was an "outlier" false, and proves her multiple high tier durability feats are legit.

Captain Marvel's durability feats include going toe to toe with opponents with the durability feats of Wonder Woman and Superman, showing he is on par with them (in some of his fights with Kal, he even no showed blows Supes threw); withstanding several assaults from an enraged, unleased Spectre (he soon got an amp from Enchantress that directed magic from multiple sorcerers and even millions of every day people to Cap, which enabled him to last longer, but to hold out initially is impressive) and, because of his magic enduring a tesseract bomb that his JLA team mates-even Superman-might not have survived http://i.imgur.com/CdUkPQv.jpg. Those are on par with The Void Hound incident, thus rendering Cap tanking such trauma from the construct legit.

But what of the other JLA members who survived the blasts-John Stewart Green Lantern, Power Girl, and mysterious newcomer Faith-doesn't those JLA members not getting instantly incinerated verify that the Void Hound incident is suspect, veering, if not outright landing into "PIS" territory?

Well---no.

Though they are not quite on the level of the big three, they are close enough to, while not being able to tank The Void Hound's assaults, survive them:

John Stewart Green Lantern's durability feats include withstanding the virtually nothing escapes, crushing entropy of a Black Hole; along with some of his Green Lantern Corps colleagues casually, effortlessly tanking a planet exploding http://imgur.com/a/qqie3(indicating he could have taken much more, if necessary); and later, in fact doing just that when John first survives planetary destruction, then because of mistaken carelessness causes a star to explode which results in an anti matter explosion and ultimately a supernova http://imgur.com/a/nk7AT; John was devastated emotionally but fine physically (he also managed to shield Martian Manhunter, though I think J'onn could have survived it).

The above indicates that while not quite being at the level to tank the Void Hound's assaults he could survive them---which he did, though he was rendered unconscious.

Power Girl is a Kryptonian, who has displayed the durability to go against opponents with the durability feats of Superman and Wonder Woman. That is enough to show she is capable of surviving The Void Hound's blasts but not tanking them like the big three did.

And the mysterious Faith's full power has not been revealed (though little clues have been displayed, like her instantly destroying an entire alien armada and defeating a powerful sorceress Zatanna couldn't), but she is clearly powerful enough to survive The Void Hound's blasts but not tank them (as her strewn but alive body displayed). So nothing is out of order here; all the characters involved in the Void Hound incident legitimately tanked or survived their encounter with the construct.

Context is everything. From the way some users talked, the JLA members who survived the Void Hound encounter were Batman, Green Arrow, Black Canary, Hawkgirl, and Elongated Man, or something---and not characters that are powerful enough to legitimately walk away from the incident.

Oh, and by the way, again according to science, the ratio from smallest to the biggest is: Solar System, Galaxy, Universe.

So far, astronomers have found more than 500 solar systems and are discovering new ones every year. Given how many they have found in our own neighborhood of the Milky Way galaxy, scientists estimate that there may be tens of billions of solar systems in our galaxy, perhaps even as many as 100 billion.

So, if Superman is capable of absorbing a half a galaxy destroying amount of anti sunlight from Megaddon http://imgur.com/a/aHR4A and smiling afterwards, indicating he could have taken a lot more, if necessary, then tanking the blasts from The Void Hound when this devastating, has no capacity to show mercy or "hold back" it's power construct was trying to terminate Kal http://imgur.com/a/ZvaG2 (just a test run of it's blasts destroyed 10 Star Systems in one go http://i.imgur.com/2gREOpX.jpg) wouldn't be a problem. And as Diana's similar feats show, it's not a problem for her either.

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@jay_z94: Just like in that Wonder Woman vs. Thor thread where not just me, but many others-even those who often disagree with me-called you out for your "Thor can't be cut by her weapons enough to harm him fatally/he has the combat speed to tag her" nonsense, we've come to the point where I'm not interested in what you have to say any longer. I don't get into 20 page "Did Not!" "Did too!" useless back and forth playground exchanges.

Which is why, after reading the first two sentences of your last post and realizing you were just going to endlessly spout the same nonsense, I stopped reading, and won't read anything you have to say further on this matter. You are free to Believe What You Want To Believe,

Just far, FAR away from me.