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The Earth's atmosphere extends into "space"

There is less Oxygen the further up you get but it's still there. Saiyans are allot more resilient than humans so they can probably survive in more extreme environments, just not in a vacuum.

Personally I don't think this is close but I'll let other people give their opinions first,

His mum. Peter B Parker has just started a family, doubt they'll kill Gwen and his dad is too obvious at this point.

Assuming this is DBS, Broly went from matching base Vegeta to being well above SSB in a few minutes. He gets stronger at a way more astronomical rate than Hulk does. DBZ would be a different story and I'd actually back Hulk in those circumstances, so I'll leave this open in case you want to clarify.

@eredin12: Yeah exactly. I don't think it's striking power in the traditional sense because it doesn't scale to their physicals, but ultimately there isn't much difference in the context of a fight. So if Frieza can slap a planet and make it explode I don't see why he couldn't punch someone with Ki and output a similar amount of power.

@pyrofn: To be honest, if they get down to one host I feel like most of The Avengers should already be pretty badly hurt, if not down a member or two. Hulk is the only one who might be near peak condition with his healing factor, but he’s also bringing the least offensively so wouldn’t really be adding much by then outside of tanking some hits. Hard to see them doing much at that point.

@eredin12: I guess it’s not the same as smacking the ground and causing damage through the raw physical power of the attack, so I think there is a distinction to be made but it’s mostly semantics to me. In a debate I would still use this showing like “here’s what Frieza can casually do with a light slap”, I just wouldn’t use it to argue that he has crazy physical strength. Kinda how Iron Fist can do impressive stuff with strikes through chi but it doesn’t translate to his raw strength.

In that case the avengers could win round 1 and lose the second.

Oh right I get you. Well I don’t think it’s Ki amped physical strength in the way it would be if Thor or Hulk did something similar, it’s definitely some form of Ki attack. However I think in terms of results there isn’t much difference between using physical strength and using Ki, except maybe the former would imply you can lift more as well.

Depends whether the Phoenix can spread to the other members.