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#1 thedailybagel  Moderator

Am I missing something?

Even EoS full-power Eve wasn't on the level of elite Viltrumites. Just look at how she struggled with Thragg's children while Omni-Man was doing fine.

Anissa overpowered post-Viltrumite War Mark, so she is clearly meant to be close to Omni-Man in strength.

This is eve without mental blocks.

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@jimohkolawol10:

I am not disputing this and goku wasn't showing signs of resistance to lesser oxygen in upper atmosphere.

Whis has said they need Oxygen to breathe but struggle the thinner it gets. I don't really understand how Goku doing a specific thing is not proof that he can do that same thing.

We know they physically superior to human just like Elephants,lions are physically above humans that's doesn't take away the natural way needing oxygen.

Unless, IF there's any proof or Statement that's says "Saiyans has better resistant because they physically above human just ( like lion and elephant) they must have better resistance to low oxygen

To be honest now you are just moving goalposts. Your entire point previously was that they were in space, now you've moved to "We have no proof he can survive low Oxygen" like Goku wasn't having a conversation up there with Beerus. That is literally proof.

all are bringing up is an EXCUSE becuz goku didn't shown any glimpse of trying to breathe upper atmosphere even thou he supposed to.All I ask now is the writer's word of this resistance Saiyan.

This is a massive stretch as well, you can see Goku breathing:

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This is the movie but the exact same thing happens in the anime, the gif just doesn't wanna load.

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#3  Edited By thedailybagel  Moderator
@jimohkolawol10 said:

Any proof Saiyans has resistance than human? Sorry not buying that excuse.we had seen Pan first flight aswell.

What excuse? I was showing you that your idea of "space" was a little mistaken. Pan's flight was also within Earth's upper atmosphere iirc. Obviously not nearly enough for humans but it's a scientific fact that there is still Oxygen up there.

You want proof that Saiyans are more resistant than humans? They come from a planet with 10X Earths gravity. Goku as a child before learning about Ki could tank flamethrowers which are as hot as lava. I'm not really sure what you are asking for honestly.

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@xantimobiusgodx: Regular humans have survived having their throat crushed by Vader.

And Viltrumites have fought for days on end with their internal organs on the outside of their bodies.

Who?? What ”Regular” Humans have Survived having their Throat’s crushed by Darth Vader?

Internal Damage Via the force to the Heart, Lungs, or Windpipe. Will have a much different outcome and Kill-success rate than your organs dangling out as a SuperHuman. Let’s not forgot Vader can just Snap his neck too as The Force > Durability outside of the SW universe since Passive Barriers don’t exist for Non-Force users. Nolan doesn’t have any Counters for the Force. End of story.

Is the underlined not just a massive NLF? You are basically saying that Vader vs anyone outside of Star Wars is an instant win regardless of physicals. Where would you draw the line? Silver Surfer? Thanos?

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@takenstew22 said:

@jimohkolawol10: Not deep space. They were fighting in the Earth’s upper atmosphere.

Still space and showed no signs of struggling for oxygen.

For gods sake, Vegeta during early Moro arc flat out says Saiyans can’t survive in space. The series answers all this, and y’all still ignore it.

But we saw them in space lol,

The Earth's atmosphere extends into "space"

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There is less Oxygen the further up you get but it's still there. Saiyans are allot more resilient than humans so they can probably survive in more extreme environments, just not in a vacuum.

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Personally I don't think this is close but I'll let other people give their opinions first,

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His mum. Peter B Parker has just started a family, doubt they'll kill Gwen and his dad is too obvious at this point.

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Assuming this is DBS, Broly went from matching base Vegeta to being well above SSB in a few minutes. He gets stronger at a way more astronomical rate than Hulk does. DBZ would be a different story and I'd actually back Hulk in those circumstances, so I'll leave this open in case you want to clarify.

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@eredin12: Yeah exactly. I don't think it's striking power in the traditional sense because it doesn't scale to their physicals, but ultimately there isn't much difference in the context of a fight. So if Frieza can slap a planet and make it explode I don't see why he couldn't punch someone with Ki and output a similar amount of power.