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@katrurius17: What bad power scaling are you guys talking about, i only remember introductions of ridiculous numbers, which have always been bullsht, and I have honestly never paid much attention to, and I'm sure most don't/didn't that's why they don't complain. With super the scaling issue is in your face bad, you can't gloss over it.

Before the Saiyans it was all Earth, Goku and Piccolo. The Earth through numerous admissions is a planet of relatively low power level, while the likes of Raditz etc are going around cleaning out life from different planets solo or as few as 2. That's not bad power scaling, they should be stronger on average.

Tien and Krillin etc were clearly weaker than Goku and Piccolo but they weren't that far behind, and they spent nearly a year at Kami's lookout training specifically for Saiyans. Progressing your training and getting stronger/better makes sense. By the "It's over 9000!" point Goku had taken his training to the next level also in King Kai's planet which was the first introduction of increased gravity, this realistically would yield incredible results (of course we're talking about a fiction where the pumping of blood would be of no concern), a shock to the system or keeping workouts fresh is how you progress. Not to mention running snakesway for months and kaio-ken to multiply his attributes.

Where as with Super you have one guy at God level training non-stop with the likes of Beerus (or someone stronger like Whis) being close in level with some guy who shadowboxes in his spare time when he's not protecting animals from poachers. Now that doesn't make sense. Then there's Trunks going from SS2 to around SSB suddenly.

The difference here is actual progressive training. If I saw Krillin or someone train with Beerus and Whis I could believe they got really strong really quick.

The only one who was skewing things then was Gohan. Which is just meant to be OP despite being 4 years old, gotta just accept that.

@alsimmons77: DBS is decent overall and has a lot to compete with DBZ (DBS's soundtrack is excellent, Pacing is a major plus, variety of character abilities, and as of recently some pretty good animation), but it pales in atmosphere, tension, stakes and writing for the story and the characters to DBZ. DBS has some glaring plot holes. (Like how the Grand Priest doesn't inform Zeno as Zamasu is going around killing the God's life-links)

DBS also is not very comparable to DBZ choreography which made it look like the guys are actually trained martial artists, only time this has really happened in DBS is with UI Goku, but even then it was more matrix (badass doe). DBZ is very heavy with the padding everyone knows that, but amidst that there is a gem for all those fights. Except Gohan vs Cell, that "fight" was and is all hype, cool kameha wave though.

Overall, aight, just wish they'd think about the writing a bit more..

@alsimmons77: How?

Preacher, Sandman, Uncanny X-Force, DnA GOTG run.

@krleavenger: Yea, and she found out it was something she was already in the cusp of discovery (of the necessary fuel I think it was). The only difference here is that Future Bulma is just that, future her (somewhat, parallel timeline and all that jazz). Tech advances with time, that's obvious, like in the real world, the point is she has been shown to have done it.

Que?

Those capsules sure would be handy. Your house, your car collection, and w/e the hell else in your pockets.

Dunno enough about Tony, someone will have to list his inventions. Bulma invented a time machine, gravity machine, interstellar space craft, dragon ball detector, the machine to turn Vegeta into a SS4.

I do believe I remember something about Tony inventing rocket-powered roller skates doe.

Gave made in abyss and konosuba a shot. Both good. Makes me wonder about the rest of the list, will give them a shot too eventually.

@vptwarrior: the guys in guren lagann were tossing galaxies like shurikens weren't they? That's a hell of a comparison.

And iirc actually blew up a universe.