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He really is. Even Toppo wonders how long he's been such a coward.

it does deserve a lower rating. Admittedly I only watched through all this because I'm a dragon ball fanboy. It had it's moments, first hit fight, fight UI fight, UI Goku vs Kefla and maybe some other bits. Pretty good OST although most don't hit as well as they should due to terrible story-boarding. Last episode was the best in awhile, poor choreography (they seem to be purposely avoiding showing the blows) but the storyboard was good enough to where you could enjoy it and feel some energy boiling. Overall yea, I'd say a 5 maybe, but that's because I'm clearly not the audience they are aiming for, they seem to be aiming for 7-12 or something, not like most previous shounen (next level of shounen? From Fist of the North Star/Jojo's Bizarre adventure to Code Geass/FMA to now basically cartoons).

Dunno who made these. But Tate's animation just makes me wonder what happened to choreography. It's so random, lots of spinning and a lightshow, like, just show them fight, make it comprehensible, show skills, give us a back and forth (with real hits) etc.

@metaljimmor: I think that's fair. But what I meant is that they learn on the job, which wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for frieza, he's sadistic and loves playing with guys letting them take some shots. Athleticism also goes a long way, look at the one-dimensional Pacquiao vs the schooled boxer-puncher Marquez in their first meeting. Anyway, I agree overall, "martial arts" or official schooling I don't think Frieza had, but he probably knew how to fight nonetheless.

@metaljimmor: look at frieza like a wild cat (tiger for instance), these guys dont train (although playing with siblings mimics fighting somewhat) and most of their experience comes from actual hunting. Frieza may have not trained, but it's not far fetched to think he played/fought with his sibling and other folk he eventually murdered like he was playing with Goku's crew.

Anyway, if you look at it that way you can also see him as a very flexible and naturally athletic individual. Unlike the mainly sedentary human species.

Dont thibk they should have any more levels to saiyans. 4 seems appropriately the limit. The rest should be techniques, not another super ultra legendary super saiyan 5 etc.

@dragonspine: it's beautiful.

@deathhero61: you're a bit of a tool arent you? If you dont want to talk dont respond. I dont see how I reached anywhere when I literally just posted facts and gave an honest attempt in bridging the two verses. How is that "reaching"? I even said I could understand genjutsu being succesful and, just as I could understand it not being successful.

Sasuke and itachi just stood infront of each other for a duration having a genjutsu battle, similar to krillin vs gohan and gohan vs goku in their image training. And in dbs goku has also dispelled illusions in the forest of terror. So I wouldnt think its fair to say he has NO resistance to it, or act shocked if he did resist an illusionary attack.

Another interesting thing is how sensing would work, could he sense that the actual body of his opponent is not where he sees it to be and thus realize he's within an illusion, powering up while in an illusion would be interesting. Also interesting to see with what in the naruto verse could hold him down to torture him like kakashi was. Just questions, but here you could say reaching. With beforehand information he could maybe take on the verse blindfolded.

Carry on anyway. Hard headed dorks are no fun.