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Thing That Were Right and Things That were wrong about Batman & Robin

Title speaks for itself. The list covers the things that were wrong with the movie and things that were right. Needless to say, very little is in the latter. There will be spoilers, though the movies has been out for 15 years. If you know nothing about the movie, you're lucky. But this list contains spoilers. Let's get started.

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  • We start with the wrong.

    George Clooney Batman is possibly the worst casting ever in a superhero movie (although this movie has a few contenders). He sounds nothing like Batman, was not able to provide decent fight scenes, and was just downright bad.

  • Chris O' Donnel. I have never seen him in anything else, so I'm not sure if he's a good actor. Though if I based it off of this and Batman Forever, he'd be a horrible actor. He was not a convincing Robin, looked horrible for the part (although the suit had part to do with that. More on that later), and was again bad. Although he looked like the greatest actor ever standing next to Clooney Batman.

  • I don't even know why she's on here. That was not Barbara Gordon. She wasn't even called that, so the movie proved my point. What idiot thought it was a good idea to turn her into Barbara Pennyworth? And everything in the movie about her was just bad. Why did she even become Batgirl? She had no training or experience. She just put on a costume and went out to help Batman and Robin against Poison Ivy. And Batman just happens to have a costume for a female her size in the cave? Did he think Barbara was going to become Batgirl the moment he saw her? Aside from all the horrible things about the character, the bad actress didn't help. Sure, Alicia Silverstone is hot. But she was a horrible Batgirl, and they couldn't even get her hair color right? Hey, let's give Thor black hair in the next Thor movie! :P

  • There were SO MANY things wrong with him. Whether it's the bad design, bad ice related puns, bad casting, etc., there was NOTHING good about it. It's a tragic story about his wife. Good. That's always been a good origin for Freeze. But then why does he make ice related puns? And don't even get me started about the sing-a-long in his headquarters...

  • Oh God I was dreading typing this. I have one Hyphenated word. Bat-nipples. Who thought that was a good idea? It looked horrible and gay. And what was with all the close ups on their butts when they had the suits on? Even taking those two major things out of it, it still was not good. It looked like cheap plastic. Burton's costumes looked good for the time and looked like Batman. This looked like a parody of Batman you'd see in a cheap fan-made film. And why do Batman and Robin have the bat-nipples but Batgirl doesn't?

  • In the Burton movies, the Batmobile looked realistic (well, as realistic as it could while sticking to the comics). Here (and in Batman Forever), it looked like it belongs on a Saturday morning cartoon show. Why change it?

  • He was never good in a movie until Batman Begins. I love Burton's movie, though Gordon was not good in those. He just got worse in every movie.

  • As bad as everything else was, this has to be the worst. And that's saying something. In the comics, Bane was a genius who was able to defeat Batman in combat. He could be the epic main villain of a movie (Mr. Nolan proved that). But instead, they turn him into a mindless henchmen who can't formulate a sentence. He had terrible special affects, the costume didn't look good (did any of them though?), etc. Feel free to make your own opinion, but he is my least favorite part of this movie. Thank God the Dark Knight Rises came along and showed people how truly epic he can be.

  • It pretty much killed the franchise. I think Batman Forever was 10X worse, though this movie didn't help save the franchise after that. It helped kill what Tim Burton worked hard to make. Why did Warner Bros. even get rid of Burton? Batman is suppose to be dark you idiots! Not family-friendly.

  • The batarang themselves were fine, this was just the closest I could get. Were they trying to bring Batman back to the old Adam West days? Retractable ice-skates, bat-heat rays they just happened to have when they knew nothing about Mr. Freeze, and worst of all: the Bat-Credit Card! You heard me! He never leaves the cave without it. My reaction when I saw him pull it out was:

    .....WHAT!?!?!?!

    I'm moving onto something else before I go and break my computer.

  • Now we start the good stuff.

    I'm not sure how you feel, but I liked Uma Therman Poison Ivy. I thought she did well in the role. I think if it was just her with no Freeze or Bane, it would of been a lot better. I thought her acting was a good job, and she looked good for the role. Sure, she doesn't look as good as Ivy did in the Arkham games, but does she ever?

  • Okay. As bat as Batman & Robin was, it was SO much better than Batman Forever. If I had to watch an all day marathon of either movie, I'd be begging for Batman & Robin. Batman & Robin is horrible, but kind of funny when you think about it. Batman Forever is just downright bad.

  • The final piece on the list. Yes, Batman & Robin was terrible. However, it was able to give us an epic trilogy of Batman movies starting with Batman Begins. Begins itself was alright, but it eventually gave us The Dark Knight Rises, the second greatest superhero movie of all time (after The Avengers). So while it itself was horrible, down the line it was good for everyone.

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the Dark Knight was better than both the Dark Knight Rises and the Avengers (the Avengers against the Dark Knight [the Avengers brought a knife to a gunfight] Dark Knight wins)

oh and Batman Forever was better than Batman & Robin

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@scottyhawkeye: First off, that has nothing to do with this list.

Matter of opinion really. B&R created the perfect combination of making me furious while keeping me laughing (not at the bad jokes like "Chicks dig the car," but because of how ridiculous it got). I can't find a single redeeming factor for Forever.

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@thecannon: why bother putting it up then when you mentioned the Nolanverse

Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones did a better job at performing their roles than Robert Swenson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Uma Thurman did, and B&R had a bigger codpiece problem than BF did (the bat-credit card really)

if Burton continued he would had better actors for the roles and Micheal Keaton would still play Batman and Billy Dee Williams would've played Two-face, and The Dark Knight best comic book movie of all time wouldn't eggsist

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@scottyhawkeye: As I said here, I liked Therman as Ivy. Carrey was terrible in every way and Jones was just trying to be a joker rip-off, and not in a good way. Schwarzenegger was terrible, in about every way possible, but I still found Carrey worse.

Keaton is the best guy to play Batman, so it would of been great. Haven't seen much of Williams (at least that I'm aware of. It turns out he's in a lot of films), but he would of been better than Jones. I really don't see how TDK has anything to do with this Burton or Schumacher's debacles.

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Bale was the best for Batman