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#1  Edited By TheBlackHood

@lagozzino said:
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Backlash against a comic drawn in a non-typical style? COLOR ME SHOCKED!

Someone defending ugly ass art simply because its a non-typical style? COLOR ME SHOCKED!

There's nothing objectively wrong with the art. Anatomy is on point, the poses aren't stiff, the faces are expressive, the narrative is captured perfectly, etc. You can look at these pages without dialogue, and still understand where the characters are, what they're doing, and what they're feeling, which is the most important thing for comic art to achieve. Send this art off to any college illustration class and it'd pass all judging criteria with flying colors.

For some reason, comic fans tend to have a hard time saying "This doesn't appeal to me personally, but it still has value and others are free to enjoy it". Instead we end up with a lot of "This shouldn't exist!" and "If you like this, you're wrong!" and, if I may invoke you, "You don't actually like it, you just want to be a contrarian!".

I honestly don't care if you like it or not. I was just mimicking your own words because you acted as if it was ridiculous for people to not like this artwork. If you life it, perhaps buy two issues to make up for the one I won't be buying as I find the artwork repulsive. After all these years, I still find Lee, Cheung, and Bagley the best artists in the business for my personal taste. I also love Travis Charest but he doesn't really do mainstream books anymore.

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Backlash against a comic drawn in a non-typical style? COLOR ME SHOCKED!

Someone defending ugly ass art simply because its a non-typical style? COLOR ME SHOCKED!

Why does it look like all their uniforms are made out of the same material as MC Hammer parachute pants? This art is nasty.

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Ha, glad I don't spend any money on DC. A confusing and pointless event if there ever was one

At least their events try to do something, which is more than can be said for the majority of Marvel events. But then, DC doesn't have a "major" event every three months.

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So this is how you avoid the calls of "whitewashing" a character. You still change them to white, but you make them a woman and no one seems to mind. Got it.

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@wildvine said:

Know what would be really awesome? If all the nay say'ers volunteered at a children's hospital, or donated some money to charity as a form of silent protest. How many y'all in?

Thank you. So much negativity over a positive story. Some people just like to throw shade because they feel guilty and know in their heart that they aren't helping.

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kinda weird, i see people die in my neighborood by bullet wounds, with their mothers weeping uncontrollably over the dead body to no avail.. yet to society that is a "win." One less mexican scum on this planet, infesting america whilst stealing all the jobs. Same fate awaits me, even if I do make it top college, and no one will care

What the hell does inner city violence have to do with the Make-a-Wish foundation? How is that even a comparison? And good job trying to make a story about a young kid sick with life threatening Leukemia into an argument about race. You must be Mr. Fantastic because that was a hell of a stretch.

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@theblackhood: Turning a city into gotham for 1 kid or helping 50 kids like him, which do you think is better? They both cot the same. DO you think all those people that came from all over the world to witness this came for the boy? I am a Muslim and every good muslim donates 2.5% of their money each year to various charities so yeah, I think I'm doing something. The money I donate goes to more than 1 kid who had a disease but was still able to afford food, to real people who need help.If someone donated money for his operation or medicine or something then that is okay but donating money to make him think he is batman? that is just a waste!

You really don't get it. Every bit of the money from this film will go to help other kids. If this had never taken place, there would be no documentary. You don't get to tell people how they make a difference or what matters. By your logic, we should ignore anything that isn't the most hardcore case of need. Also, Make-a-Wish helps kids who are more than likely beyond the help of modern medicine. In this case, there was a happy ending because the child's leukemia went into remission. Taking the money from Make-a-Wish and simply distributing it to the kids in the program would often do nothing because these are seriously ill or terminally ill children. Money will not save their lives but it may make their final days memorable for them.

@cave_duck and @donfelipe Thank you, at least some people get it.

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#9  Edited By TheBlackHood

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Why is it that anytime something truly nice happens people get all green with envy... As if your child was in the same situation you as a parent would respond with, "Oh no Make a Wish Foundation, we would rather you spent these funds on the homeless or other needy kids."

I find this especially shocking when these kinds of comments are made on a website devoted to Comic Books, the ONE medium devoted to inspiring people to DO GOOD...

Also as an FYI this film is a documentary, Hollywood will probably make a pretty penny, but at the end of the day the film was made to DOCUMENT a remarkable event. If things like this happened every day then there would be no need for a documentary. So can we all please agree that this was a beautiful moment in our existence as human beings and that's all, I realize we here in America have freedom of speech, but just because you can doesn't always mean you should.

I think people are saying, if you want to make a difference, you need to do the right thing and help people 24/7. Not just one time. I've had times in my life that were REALLY difficult, and there was nobody there to help me. Sure, I didn't have cancer, but that doesn't mean what I went through was easy. And I know other people have had similar experiences. So, for those people, it seems rather hypocritical for virtually everyone come out of the woodwork to help one child, when there are literally an innumerable number of people on the planet who need help, and will never get it. Sort of like, if you're at the shipwreck of the Titanic, saving survivors, and everyone pulls one child out of the ocean, and then immediately calls it a day, and goes home. That's where the criticism of this event is coming from, IMO.

However, it is nice that people were willing to help this child.

But the problem with that is you have a bunch of people sitting on here NOT MAKING A DIFFERENCE, talking about people who made a difference in one child's life that they're doing it wrong. Its funny that people say DC movies are too dark, they should check out comic book message boards sometime.

Also, for all the assholes in the audience: The movie was completely crowd funded and ALL proceeds from the film go to San Francisco based charities. Freakin' people. This is why we can't have nice things.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/batkid-begins#/story

That took all of five minutes of research.

This is a very good point; however, how do you know the people on here aren't making a difference? You can make a difference in people's lives in rather small ways. Also, I don't think they are saying that people shouldn't have helped the kid nor that the kid should've been helped differently. I think people are trying to say that most of the people who attended the event or who are going to go watch the move or who tweeted a hashtag about the film were insincere. They were doing the right thing, but only because they wanted to feel better about themselves or because they wanted to look good, and not out of concern for the child. I don't know whether or not this is true, but the Western world does have a legitimate problem with narcissism, that other cultures don't have. A narcissist is incapable of feeling for other people, unless it benefits the narcissist.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/allinthemind/young-people-today-are-more-narcissistic-than-ever/5457236

But I'm not criticizing this event at all. I'm simply playing Devil's advocate, and trying to explain why some people might criticize this event.

But they do bring up a good point. If you want to be a good person, you need to help people everyday, all the time in your life. Events like this are nice, but we need to make sure we're always doing the right thing and for the right reasons. So its a good thing that nothing is above criticism, because nothing is ever really as black and white as people originally think.

But I really don't know enough about the people who attended this event to know what their intentions were or anything like that, and I really don't think anyone truly knows that.

The biggest narcissists are the people who sit on the internet and try to tell others that they aren't doing enough or the right things while they do nothing at all. How are these people "making a difference 24/7" while they sit here complaining. If there is a cause they think is more worthy of time or money, they can do it themselves. The people complaining about this likely do no charity work so they assuage their guilt by nitpicking the work of others. @pelykan how much do you do for the homeless since you assume others ignore them? @abdullahzubair since you think this was a waste on one child, what are you doing for sick children? If you're going to call out the people on this film, which is non-profit, then you sure as hell better being doing something more.

I volunteer at Elementary schools and once the school year ends I will be working at a Women and Children's shelter 3 days a week. I know I could be doing more, but I'm not the one crapping on this charity.

I really expect better out of the Comicvine community.

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@superadam said:
@batmanbat35 said:

Why is it that anytime something truly nice happens people get all green with envy... As if your child was in the same situation you as a parent would respond with, "Oh no Make a Wish Foundation, we would rather you spent these funds on the homeless or other needy kids."

I find this especially shocking when these kinds of comments are made on a website devoted to Comic Books, the ONE medium devoted to inspiring people to DO GOOD...

Also as an FYI this film is a documentary, Hollywood will probably make a pretty penny, but at the end of the day the film was made to DOCUMENT a remarkable event. If things like this happened every day then there would be no need for a documentary. So can we all please agree that this was a beautiful moment in our existence as human beings and that's all, I realize we here in America have freedom of speech, but just because you can doesn't always mean you should.

I think people are saying, if you want to make a difference, you need to do the right thing and help people 24/7. Not just one time. I've had times in my life that were REALLY difficult, and there was nobody there to help me. Sure, I didn't have cancer, but that doesn't mean what I went through was easy. And I know other people have had similar experiences. So, for those people, it seems rather hypocritical for virtually everyone come out of the woodwork to help one child, when there are literally an innumerable number of people on the planet who need help, and will never get it. Sort of like, if you're at the shipwreck of the Titanic, saving survivors, and everyone pulls one child out of the ocean, and then immediately calls it a day, and goes home. That's where the criticism of this event is coming from, IMO.

However, it is nice that people were willing to help this child.

But the problem with that is you have a bunch of people sitting on here NOT MAKING A DIFFERENCE, talking about people who made a difference in one child's life that they're doing it wrong. Its funny that people say DC movies are too dark, they should check out comic book message boards sometime.

Also, for all the assholes in the audience: The movie was completely crowd funded and ALL proceeds from the film go to San Francisco based charities. Freakin' people. This is why we can't have nice things.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/batkid-begins#/story

That took all of five minutes of research.