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@blade_r said:

Goku was probably suppressing his PL as the Z fighters are known to do. Its not much different than when Frieza got his goons to read Future Trunk's power level and it came up as a whopping 5, they don't walk around flaring their powers 24.7. That's how I interpreted that scene in the movie anyway. I will watch the episode tonight and see if its any different.

IIRC , Goku was pissed off and was using his full power of his SSj form . So , I don't think that goku was suppressing his power .

I think it's a simple mistranslation. In the sub I saw, Beerus does say this. But later clarifies himself. Plus Goku was holding way way back.

how does he clarify himself?

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Agreed with the result, not the calculations and statements that brought them there. Also didn't really appreciate the backhanded comments made about Superman. It felt like they gave him the win purely because they believe him to be a terrible and OP character.

Though, I was surprised, I was expecting Goku to win to appease the DBZ fans.

Don't forget that they think he is invincible and no one can beat him .

I too was expecting Goku to win because he lost the last battle and many dbz fans were furious about it .

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#3  Edited By theamazingbatman

@theamazingbatman: gokus power level cannot be truly detected this is why the scouters didn't work and how cell was able to hide from them by lowering his power level so they could not find him, this is because goku can charge up his power.

Why can't Goku's power level be detected?

Beerus knows how strong frieza was , and when he fought Goku , he knew exactly how strong he was .

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This thread is 7 hours old , why isn't it locked yet?

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@sad_eyes said:

He was training to achieve new Super Siyan transformations

Namely SSJ2&3

He already had those at this point .

Probably a dub error

Trunks was able stomp frieza

Goku from buu saga is way stronger than frieza saga goku

Yup , and Gohan one shotted frieza .

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In DragonBall Super Episode 5 , Beerus comes to King Kai's planet and says that base goku is pathetic and there is no way that he could have defeated Frieza .

Goku then shows him his super saiyan form . Beerus then says that Goku is barely stronger than frieza .

Well , he was barely stronger than Frieza as a super saiyan all the way back in Frieza saga . (Which was maybe 15 years before BoG?)

So , Goku has trained for 15 years and he hasn't gotten one bit stronger? Then what's the point of training? Why has Goku spent 15 years on training if he isn't getting any stronger ? What is the training for then?

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WTF is this battle? Dovahkiin against himself and the prince?


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@micah said:
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@micah said:

Once again Goku and his entire verse come off as ridiculously weak under the supervision of Screwattack. But seriously people take their verdict too seriously. They are fictional characters, no need to get so angry about it gents.

I know , but it just makes me mad that Dbz is so underrated .

Don't let it get to you, its not worth getting so heavily invested in a fight in which the victor changes on a whim depending upon whats taken into account. Simply enjoy the animation.

You're right . Thank you , sir .

@theamazingbatman: I wasn't disappointed in the outcome, tbh it was the obvious outcome.

But I do agree that saying Superman isn't interesting because he is powerful was ignorant. They clearly don't understand the symbol he represents or his struggles.

At the end of the day though, I thought the fight was pretty entertaining.

Why was the outcome obvious ? I am a little curious .

The fight was interesting tbh , but SA got a lot of stats wrong .

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@micah said:

Once again Goku and his entire verse come off as ridiculously weak under the supervision of Screwattack. But seriously people take their verdict too seriously. They are fictional characters, no need to get so angry about it gents.

I know , but it just makes me mad that Dbz is so underrated .

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Alduin stomps . He ended the previous world and he can't die by normal means .