The Liberator

This is all about location and circumstance. Nobody takes that into account in super battles(it seems) Who would win if Batman couldn't use any gadgets and Daredevil couldn't use his weapons? It would be close, but most likely Batman. Who would win if the two couldn't use any weapons, toys, etc., and were locked in a dark room? Daredevil. Cause if you try to fight a guy who can see with his senses and you're in the dark, you're going to get fucked up. Notice how DD often takes out the lights before he rolls up on some fools. Batman does too, but I said no gadgets, and we all know that Bats has nightvision or some stuff in his cowl.

I'm going to say Daredevil, because I've seen DD do things like swat a bullet away from w/ his baton and radar sense. Added to that, Daredevil is way cooler than Cyclops could ever hope to be, so I just don't want to envision DD losing to the X-Men's jerk field leader. However, the location does come into play. If they're in a field, Cyclops, I'm sad to say, has an advantage. However, Daredevil has the ninjitsu skills to lay a stealthy ass whipping on Cyke if they're in a city. Of course DD would use stealth if he could, knowing he's at a disadvantage, but I also don't count out Matt because of his heart too. This guy took on the Hulk alone!! (Got his ass whipped, but hey, not many blind men, normal men, or superpowered men have the balls to take on Mean Green by themselves!)

And how would it permanently kill Logan? He'd eventually find out it's weakness to sound and fire and use those to weaken the symbiote's hold on the host and then stab the human inside the suit.

Okay, some of you guys have been saying that Cap would get knocked backwards while blocking Scott's eye beams. I don't think Scott can generate this much force because in West Coast Avengers #48 Cap jumps from about nine stories up down to the ground with his shield underneath him(Legs and body tucked into the shield). He explains he's fine because his shield is able to absorb and dissipate impact so well that as long as he has the shield underneath him, he'll be fine. Added to that someone mentioned him taking a Nova blast from the torch from 5 feet away without budging, and I'm pretty sure that in terms of blast power that's stronger than what Scott can manage, but maybe not. Any freaking way, if Cap can take on Spidey in hand to hand (Civil War) and whip him, I know that Cyclops would be down for the count pretty quickly. And for the record, I read someone say earlier that Cylops could equal Wolverine in a straight up hand to hand fight; I've gotta say that is so freaking ridiculous. Wolverine is hundreds of years old with experience hardened from every major war since World War One and special ops experience amongst other things. To lay a finger on Wolverine, claws or not, adamantium or not, healing factor or not, you have to be one of the best, and Cyclops knows his way around a fight, but Wolverine would bitch slap the optic powers straight out of Cylops' skull. Even if Cyclops did land a hit on Wolverine, what happens to your bones when you punch a wall of adamantium? Even if Wolverine blocked one of cyclops' hits, that's it, fight over, he's broken Scott's arm. Back to topic. Cap beats Cylops into a fine paste. Period.
Post Edited:2007-07-04 21:29:11

Yeah I think that the audience would probably be lost on some of Deadpool's material. Deadpool is better at doing funny things and being in funny situations (since that's the way the writer's want him), and a lot of Deadpool's comedy comes from breaking the fourth wall. If this is a Marvel universe audience, they won't know what the hell he's talking about. I'd give it to Spidey because he's better at one-liners and quips that everyone gets. If anything webhead would have the Steven Wright factor and tell jokes so corny they are hilarious.

With none of Wonder Woman's special weapon's, I'm pretty sure that She-Hulk would still lose, because as already mentioned, she isn't as good of a fighter in terms of skill as Wonder Woman. That said, I'm pretty sure that Wonder Woman would still win because of her greater strength. If She-Hulk can't go toe to toe with her cousin the Hulk (she tried once, and failed), and the Hulk can easily contest Superman in a bout of strength, and Wonder Woman can also fight Superman in terms of strength, it only stands to reason that since Wonder Woman is just barely not as strong as Superman, she would also be stronger than She-Hulk. But strength isn't everything. Due to her smaller size, Wonder Woman would probably be more agile and fast than She-Hulk (who is fast for her size) which would also be a determining factor.
Post Edited:2007-07-04 21:05:09

For a moment I was thinking that maybe everyone's favorite Gene Simmon's tongued symbiote would be able to sneak up on her, but then she'd sense him and what not...yeah, Brock, Gargan, whoever's in the suit, pwned.

The original Japanese concept and material is all great! The American movie is so bad it's hilarious, however I think it should be remade by either us or Japan!

A long, good fight with Shang Chi ultimately taking DD's clubs and showing him moves he never thought of..painfully. Of course Matt would f' up Shang as well, I'm just saying, he is the friggin' master of Kung Fu here.

I wouldn't be so sure, let's not forget that Simon's likely attraction to her would be a factor in him getting his ass kicked as well, and let us not forget that Wonder Man used to be in some sort of Ionic energy form. I "wonder" how Diana of Themyscira would fare against him in that state?

P.S.--(On the note that orig. Wonder Man was as strong as Thor, Wonder Woman has gone toe to toe with Superman himself, with her added combat training and boobies, it wouldn't be too hard for her.)