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It looks like JLI's art style, but I can't place it.

I love how Darkseid is casually slapping Captain Atom aside like he's a minor inconvenience.

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Let's go with the most recent Master. We'll say the Gomez Master, Missy.

She strolls in to town and finds a mess of chaos and anarchy, and decides to bring his own version of order to it. She can easily whip of a device like the one that froze planes all over the planet and use it to instead selectively freeze things all around Gotham, holding people or setting up events wherever he needs to. She also has her sonic umbrella, which is solidly useful, and her little point and click disintegrator device. In a direct fight where she knows Batman is coming, she kills him pretty easily.

That being said, Batman has 48 hours. he has a moon base and the Hellbat suit (I don't think that's gone, didn't Lois recently use it?). If he pulls that out, he easily stomps the encounter with his Darkseid fighting suit. Without that, and assuming the Master doesn't just freeze Batman in time, Batman has the edge with that much prep considering his arsenal. The Master is a pretty vain guy, doesn't usually stop to think about what the hairless apes are doing.

Without any of Batman's JLA level suits, I'd give it 50/50 odds, assuming the Master doesn't freeze Batman in time. With JLA level armors, and without being frozen in time, Batman should solidly take it (although the Sonic Umbrella might help here, but it has like one feat of closing a door). Assuming Missy freezes Bruce, she wins 10/10.

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I mean, the Doctor is clearly the best one out of the group. He can easily disarm humans and other tech, leaving the others basically useless against him. AFAIK Brian doesn't have very many good combat feats like Peter does.

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@delijoe79 said:

" @xerox-kitty: Actually he has superhuman healing abilities besides his ability to regenerate. "

where did you get that from?

In both the episodes Inferno and Planet of the Daleks, the Doctor went into a healing coma when the damage taken wasn't enough to be worth regenerating. He's also quite a bit more tough than a human, as evidence by punching a door down in the TV Movie, bending prison bars while as the Third Doctor, and falling a long way and hitting the ground during End of Time.

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I need to read up on the HoD stories, and I haven't had a chance to read the older novels with Bolas yet. I'm just going to discuss post-Mending.

That said, he should be able to easily stomp Loki given the spells he is shown doing in HoD card artwork. He should clear the next one too, Apocalypse was strong but Bolas has more direct damage AFAIK. Same with the next step. Once it gets to comic stuff, I feel he should clear steps four and five, but I'm sure there're some strong mental resistance feats I'm not remembering from the X-Men or FF.

I'm nearly 100% that Dark Phoenix is probably stronger than the JLA, and that she should stomp Bolas. Galactus should also win.

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I have no idea lol. I haven't blocked you or anything.

In a direct confrontation? Via speedblitz.

In an indirect attempt? How would they know Sidious rules the Empire? How would they know where and when to time travel to? ( If they time travel to anywhere ROTS or later, Sidious still annihilates them.)How would they know who Sidious is in the past?

If they get any access to the Holonet, they're going to easily dig through all data they can, in probably minutes. Considering a single Time War Dalek casing has the computational power to download and process all the information on Earth in seconds, it won't take them that long to find all the relevant data on the ruling Empire in the galaxy they are in.

Emergency temporal shift back to before the Empire is formed, or even longer, then engineer a New Dalek Race, tech up, and roll through the galaxy taking everything over. With the cloning tech they can steal in Star Wars, it wouldn't be hard for them to clone themselves, then set about building more of themselves.

Daleks are known to, when needed, play the part of a benefactor, loaning tech and strategic knowledge to others. They can easily work with groups from behind the shadows and work to build a power base.

They have lots of options for dealing with the Empire without having to attempt to fight Sidious 1v1.

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How so? Dalek's have reactions superior to that of The Doctor and The Doctor has shown nanosecond reactions.

Then via Force Drain or TP, both of which he possesses on a planetary scale.

You realise that the Daleks don't have to know exactly who the Emperor is, but if that's the case then it's simple they use their vastly superior technology to hack into whatever archives remain, time travel and start life wiping planets.

Then they would be engaged by the entire Republic, besides they don't have their ships here, do they? So how could they life wipe Naboo or Coruscant, especially with Jedi on it.

I ain't debating in my own thread anymore lol

Fair enough, but Time travel is hard to factor in, it causes too many variables TBH. You couldn't properly predict the outcome.

the Republic, per the OP, will not automatically attack them. Regardless of that, they possess tech and knowledge leagues beyond the possibility of the Star Wars galaxy and they can work to leverage that knowledge to get the supplies they need to rebuild their race and emerge again to conquer once more.

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I feel I don't do well against Middle Earth, I'm not that strong :(

He should be able to beat everyone there, since he beat people (off panel, IIRC) that have way better feats than any of the Valar or Maiar. I'm not really counting Eru, because he's kind of an unknown NLF, given his place is supposed to be the omnipotent creator but he never does anything beyond start the Music in the actual lore, that I recall.

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What? They destroy the planet.

Maybe that's what Kaguya was running from, the Dalek Empire.

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Really, a name doesn't actually give power level of something. Stuff was so far beyond "galaxy" level. The Daleks had weapons that erased every possible iteration of a target from the multiverse, for example. The Time Lords had a weapon that could turn off extra-dimensional access to 3-D space. The Time Lords had weapons that any TARDIS could use that could kill Q like entities. Just calling something a "Galaxy Eater" does mean it is that powerful, or even does just that. the "Eye of Harmony" is called an "eye", but it's not an "eye" but rather an ever exploding star.

Heck, the Daleks tested a weapon in the Time War that casually erased several galaxies, and it was no big deal:

The universe convulsed. For a moment, time itself held it's breath. Then it let it out again in a chaotic amalgam of past, present and future. Might-have-been and could-have-done crashed into what-if and never-was.

Caught at the edge of the temporal wave, the TARDIS rode out the storm. The first the Doctor knew of it was when the ground dropped from under his feet and his head cracked into the console.

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High above his head, the roof of the TARDIS had faded into a view of the contorted star systems as they folded in on themselves. Stars went nova; black holes collapsed; planets collided and spun away into oblivion. Several whole galaxies vanished from history - never having existed. The view and the readings from the instruments that were still working told him everything he needed to know.

"The Time Destructor," he murmured, the words lost in the alarms. So the Daleks had finally got it working, finally deployed it in this endless war against his own people, the Time Lords. Even here at the edge of the blast sphere it was impossible to predict the effects of such a device.

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The Nestene Homeworld was gone, wiped away in the blink of an eye. Temporal shockwaves rippled out through systems from Grantaginus to Mellandrova, from the Farflung Rift to the Wolf's Heart Nebula.

Finally, he saw it. A tiny planet on the edge of the nearest system. It was impossible to know if it had been affected, but it seemed stable. For the moment. It would only take the merest hint of the ripple to turn the planet's sun into a supernova or a black hole, or an empty space where no star had yet formed.

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"The Daleks have deployed a Time Destuctor." He regarded their blank expressions. "Great Time War, no?"

The Scientific Secrets of Doctor Who "Natural Regression"

And Time Lords had Time Destructors and used them as well.

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Those were almost certainly Mondas Cybermen. It was hinted hinted at in Nightmare in Silver, with the Cybus style suits that fought in the Cyber-War, which was a known Mondas conflict.

Given that Assimilation^2 also literally showed Mondas Cybermen as learning about the Star Trek setting, it's almost certainly the Mondas Cybermen with similar suits that show up later in the comic. Most probably, the Mondas and Cybus Cybermen just simply combined to make a more perfect Cyber-Collective. In addition, the Cybermen ships seen in NewWho, and used by so-called "Cybus" Cybermen in Big Bang/Pandorica Opens and A Good Man Goes to War, are the exact same as Mondas Cybermen spaceships shown in the Old series, again indicating strongly that the Mondas and Cybus Cybermen became one collective.

However, ignoring all showings of Cyber-Men with (C) on their chest, which was what the alt-universe ones had, and ignoring Assimilation^2, what era for Cybermen? Nightmare in Silver era? Space-Al Qaeda era of the 4th to 7th Doctor's interactions with Cybermen in 23-30something century? Original era Mondas?

We don't have much knowledge of ship based weaponry of the Cybermen, as outside of Assimilation^2 ship to ship combat with Cybermen is not often done in Doctor Who.