" But thought is still faster, in essence, Manhunter's body has to catch up with his brain's order to move at blitzing speeds. And by that time, X-Man is already intangable. This fight isn't going to be won with J'onnz physical attributes and it's not going to be won with Nate's ridiculous telekinetic energy bursts. This is a telepathic fight. Whoever's more capable in a duel on the Astral Plane is taking this match. "
That's the point of moving at light speed. To go that fast, you have to think that fast, as well. it would be illogical to do otherwise. "
As I said earlier, thought is faster than light speed, which is why Humanite is a threat to the Flash. If thought wasn't faster, Flash, or any person who can move at insane speeds, wouldn't have any problem with him or any telepath for that matter.
X-Man would instantly be intangible, rendering physical attacks useless. Manhunter would go intangible to prevent X-Man from being able to use energy or area effect attacks, and then the fight would strictly be a telepathic one on the Astral Plane.
Now your contradicting yourself, First you go by the cutscene then by the story then when I try to give you a link to a manga you guys want to uses the game then the anime pick one. either way ken has not shown any great feat period you also repeated what I said a while ago. Until you can get a scene of ken taking big blast or hit that shatter rock,Him being fast enough to dodge machine gun fire and hitting a flying creature, And being strong enough to break through brick wall and robots then he may have a chance until then he loses in one punch. "
I contradicted nothing. Everything in the Street Fighter franchise, be it comics, manga, anime, or the games themselves, tie together to tell a cohesive story of the universe, similar to how games, movies, and comics tell the whole story in the Star Wars Universe. Ken does not drive the story, Ryu, Chun-Li, Guile, M. Bison, and Akuma do. Extreme feats of power are going to usually be shown by them. Now, as said a billion times, if Ryu is a match for Akuma and Ken is a match for Akuma, that means the three are on similar levels of power, which means a feat one person can do, one of the other can do, either to a greater or lesser extent. That much is obvious, and you don't need a depicted example of said character performing said feat to know they can do it.
Bizarro is said to be on the same strength level of Superman. Captain Marvel is said to be on the same strength level as Superman. Superman has, on panel, has moved Earth, pyramids, and the moon. Going by your backwards logic, Bizarro and Captain Marvel can't pull off those same feats because they were never shown to do so when common sense would tell you that they can perform any feat Superman can because they have similar stats.
Classic Nazi or current Nazi? Current Nazi is a bitch who got manhandled by Wonder Woman with little effort in like three panels. Wonder Man could demolish current Nazi. Classic would be more of a challenge.
"Oro beat ryu too and going by some of these guy's logic wich is ABC since oro beat ryu and ryu can beat ken then oro must be able to beat ken too, as for sagat thet guy is like either in his late 40's or early 50's from what iv heard he call ryu a youngster all the time and look at a site called absolute anime and search street fighter look for sagat and they should have his name and age ect. "
Well, I checked the Street Fighter wiki and it says that Sagat was born in 1955 (I believe) and Ken was born in 65, so he's only ten years older then him. I don't know if that qualifies him as a old man character, though. Ken gives Ryu hell when he fights and I was under the impression that they were equals so I'm not sure if that ABC logic works out. The rest of the characters you listed make sense, though. "
Yea but these guys are using abc logic in a video game so I guess if dan beats ken then he is on their level? thats BS according to their logic. "
You're attempting to use gameplay as a basis for impacting the story. What happens in gameplay doesn't reflect the story canon. Cutscenes, manga, anime, and comics, and behind the scenes making of docs reflect story canon.
Krillin can kick Vegeta's ass in a DBZ game, but does that mean Krillin is actually capable of taking out Vegeta? No. In Marvel vs Capcom, Mega Man can take out Juggernaut. Is that actually possible? No.
Batman takes it except for the team battle. Batman took out Punisher in JLA/Avengers, which is probably the most accurate DC/Marvel crossover in terms of character portrayals, and it's actually canon to the DCU. Punisher, at the time, was armed and taking out criminals when Batman dispatched him.
I don't think just saying Firestorm is a legitimate debate. Answer this question, can Firestorm catch Nightcrawler with his transmutation abilities? I doubt it. If ya'll can't disprove this notion than Nightcrawler has a high chance of getting the vic. "
He doesn't have to hit Nightcrawler. Simply altering the environment will do. Transmuting the floor and ceiling to make walls appear out of nowhere will eventually disrupt Nightcrawler's concentration and force him to teleport more than he planned on, either wearing him out or causing him to teleport incorrectly and slam right into a wall.