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#1 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

@HulktheUltimate said:

@TheMightyAvenger: Nova is powerful enough to destroy a solar system, he'd just go galaxy to galaxy destroying them at extremely quick speeds in his final form until he is finished. Besides, have you heard FF Advent Children? The song itself is enough to make you run and cry.

Your lack of knowledge of what you talk about is cosmically astounding.

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#2 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

@tron_bonne said:

@*Void*: @demifiend: @lord_oraculous016:


The only one that existed before all creation was TOAA. He created Nemesis, but he created her alone. She was the one who created the 1st existence. Genesis was the paradox of the 1st and recreated it with a hard reset or rather; he turned the power off and then turned it back on. Some characters where spared in a "saved data memory card" (extra-dimension) and that included Shuma-Gorath, Dr. Strange, & all of the extra-dimensional concepts (Principalities etc...) In all technical reasoning, Dr. Strange, Shuma etc... are older than Galactus, Phoenix & Eternity due to the Genesis paradox. However, in addition to the genuine recreation of Genesis, Time was no longer linear! Genesis created "turns of events through cause & effect" also known as Quantum realities that string together a multiverse.

This means, while TOAA was the one who created the 1st sentience and that sentience created existence, Genesis was the one who redefined existence into a multiverse, which puts him closer to the center of the totsie pop. Phoenix, Wanda, Legion, Entropy, IGV, Thanos with the IG, Anyone with the HOTU, Marquis of Death, Mad Jim Jaspers, anyone with the Ultimate Nullifier, Goddess Gaea, Chaos King, Abraxus, PR-Molecule Man are only soft/hard resetting their own respective universe within that entire multiverse. That mean that they can't really go as far back as Genesis had, therefore they couldn't have "existed before existence". The only beings that could where the beings during the 1st initial recreation. (Extra-dimensional beings are not tied with the multiverse: There are only ONE of each of them. 1 Vishanti, 1 Genesis, 1 Nemesis, 1 Cyttorak, 1 Raggaddorr, 1 Dormammu etc....) [In contrast to cosmic beings residing in the multiverse: There are multiple Galactuses, multiple Eternities etc....]

Dr. Strange on the other hand is another paradox. When Genesis allowed him to witness the recreation. He already existed before existence, and the only Dr. Strange that remembers this is..... THE REAL DR. STRANGE. All the other Dr. Stranges we see currently since the Genesis incident are copies of himself. He did this to protect himself from Dormammu and possible Shuma-Gorath too since they too existed while Genesis gave life to the multiverse. The real Dr. Strange is the most powerful. As the realities stretch further into the multiverse, each Dr. Strange gets weaker. IE: How current Strange is weaker than Infinity War Strange etc..




Basically what I meant above is that before Genesis (Sise-Neg)... TIme was LINEAR.... You can only go back and forth in time..... It just goes one way.... This linear time is 616.
After Genesis.... Time turned into NON-Linear......

For every choice an individual character makes..... A new universe is branched off of the main time-line.....




Data - "For every event that does not happen; actually DOES happen, in quantum realities......."

You like to give Genesis (Sise-Neg) way too much credit.

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#3 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

@TitsteR said:

@Tevnoba said:

There used to be a Marvel-Rankings page, but it is no longer there.



This? That's because it was wrong.

Tier 1 : 1st Class Beyond


Tier 2 : 2nd Class Beyond


Tier 3 : 1st Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale



Tier 5 : 3rd Class Multiversal Entity


Tier 6 : 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God


Tier 7 : 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God


Tier 8 : High Level Metaphysical Semi-Abstracts


Tier 9 : Minor Omnipotent Level Upper Class Reality Warpers


Tier 10 : Metaphysical and Semi-Abstract Level

Tier 11 : Elder Gods

Tier 12 : Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level


Tier 13 : Multiple Planetary-Star Scale: Skyfathers Upper Class Team Wreckers Lower Class Reality Warpers


Tier 14 : Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods Lower Class Team Wreckers High End Psionics Composite Beings


Tier 15 : Top Tiers

There are a number of incorrect placements on your list as well.

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#4 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

There used to be a Marvel-Rankings page, but it is no longer there.

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#5 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Thor's hammmer said:

PR Beyonder. GEB isn't actually omnipotent.

Neither is PR Beyonder, unless someone can explain why PR Molecule Man was able to go toe to toe with him.

He did not go toe to toe with him, he was canceling some of his power, but was loosing ground faster and faster.

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#6 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

@OblivionKnight said:

@Tevnoba: The Presensce(in Vertigo, especially the Lucifer series) is established as an omnipotent being, while Michael and Lucifer are given the two aspects that makes one omnipotent. It doesn't matter who's really omnipotent, cause I've heard about the other guy(Primal Monitor?), and, as it seems in Vertigo, the Presensce is omnipotent and the only ones above him are seemingly the writers, which is the same for every character.

"Omnipotence" is relative. Heck, Thanos was Omnipotent when he used the Cosmic Cube, then again when he used the IG, and yet again when he had HOTI / HOTU. There are hundreds of occurrences of characters claiming or be called Omnipotent, when they clearly are not. Eternity is technically Omnipotent within himself, The Infinity Being is Omnipotent, Shuma/Cytroakk/Mephisto are all "Omnipotent" within their realms, the list goes on and on and on and on . . . .

Claims/Lables of Omnipotence only last until something supersedes them. The Presence has stated that he was created by something else, hence he is not omnipotent and therefor neither are Lucifer+Michael or GEB.

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#7 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

@Prince CortSether:

Sise-Neg's feat was not everything - why? Because he absorbed the "magic" and there is more to the universe/multiverse/megaverse of Marvel than just "magic".

This is Galactus as his supposed "Full Power", which means there is no earth/universe left (because he would have to consume it all to be at full power). I say Big G takes it.

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#8 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

Harry has no chance on any of the rounds.

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#9 Edited by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

First of all, it is said that Michael + Lucifer = The Presence and that The Presence = GEB (or maybe just less than) - it is unclear, but does not matter.

THE PRESENCE (with or without GEB). and by extension Michael + Lucifer are NOT the Supreme being of the DCU! Even all of them together are not the Supreme being of the DCU, and therefore are not truly OMNIPOTENT!, PR Beyonder was.

PR Beyonder wins by default.

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#10 Posted by Tevnoba (3451 posts) - - Show Bio

Lognshot wins.