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Shinra can literally manipulate concepts so things like space and time, dimensionality are all things Shinra can control, what God is being higher dimensional if your alive and by extension exist due to the concept of life itself. Shinra can outright change the concept of life or death and instakill Miri regardless of dimensionality or outright destroy the higher dimension like he did Adolla which is a higher dimension. When your a being with conceptual manipulation you can essentially hax the hell out of anyone easily one of the most broken abilities in fiction.

Misinformation? Were?

Your going to bother cause what I said was clear cut I wasn’t downplaying Mori cause that other user whatever his name was convinced me that MorI is a higher dimensional entity in the realm above nirvana.

Issue is his opponent is Shinra who has conceptual manipulation.

A being that is above concepts wouldn’t be bound by snything even dimensionality which is a concept they can manipulate with Shinra literally destroying the concept of despair a platonic concept. You can argue other concepts aren’t platonic not the same with despair as it’s outright stated to be despair and it’s shown not to be human despair as shinra could see the despair of other species since people kept saying “human concepts”.

Alas the issue is Shinra is broken, Mori’s hax are all something Shinra can manipulate or outright erase from existence. Regardless of Mori’s being higher dimensional he’s still bound by concepts, shinra can simply change the concept of Death itself to Instakill Mori if he feels like it regardless of him being higher dimensional or not.

@greythejiren: Incorrect Shinra’s feats of actual reality warping and actually shown on page and are clear cut they are less left to interpretation and we see Shinra seeing literal despair and destroying it as a concept while manipulating the concept of death. Even immeasurable speed showings like intercepting FTL attacks without becoming ftl particles which is important. But cbf explaining further.

@professorrespect: I see your arguing with someone and I got Covid and it’s making me feel incredibly tired so ttyl ✌🏿

@professorrespect:

Wasn't even made yet; at this point it was just a bunch of energies that didn't even resemble a universe, and the second feat is him as Monarch. He's not Monarch here.

Actually it was a universe literally stated to be one it merely needed time to solidify become permanent so he absorbed universal amounts of energy which is why Parrallax was basically drained after it’s creation.

And monarch is him so your point is redundant only difference is his armour was breached so they put him in the monarch armour and he was morals off. So yeah he can contain universal amounts of energy.

Despite nearly overloading? You seem to also forget that he did in fact overload right after your scans tried to pretend like it went well lol.

Word? Nah thats my bad like I said before I didn’t read that comic when I was Looking for it I read up to the part he absorbed the energy but didn’t go past to see what happened but ill confirm if he did or didn’t overload later.

And these are just some feats of Captain Atom

Some crappy high-ends yeah.

Why u so mad today buddy? Say G dealing with people makes u mad XD

Thanks for admitting this is flawed, anyway.

Ur welcome I’ll always correct your flawed logic.

Of course, he did a crappy feat three times by accident and never did it ever again, must be applicable to here by default. The moment you defaulted to these shoddy feats and not the fact he lost to Weird/Magog was when the argument fell over.

Once again u fail to see I couldn’t care about if he could do it repeatedly but rather if he was capable of absorbing those amounts of energy but alas had to state this twice lmao.

Captain Atom can contain universal Amounts of energy arguing about if he can drain hulk isn’t debatable the only question

Pretty weak compared to the real Orion.

It would lead to storyline’s like Marvel Orion knowing his father Thanos is in search of ultimate power (infinity stones to please mistress death and he’d be there thwart and try kill him.

It would be a parallel to DC Orion knowing his father Darkseid seeks the Anti-life equation and constantly thwarts and him and has killed him altho darkseid’s motivates aren’t that of a simp but an evil God.

Instead of thanos ever getting the IG you’d have a story where he only gets half and his son fights him in some ultimate father-son battle and would win thanks to heroism, sometimes I wish Adam warlock was Thanos’s son cant wrap my brain about why just yet.

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Quick answer is yes look no further then him absorbing Parrallax’s new universe alongside other energy absorbers or the time he absorbed every version of himself which give him universal level of energy if he can absorb universal levels of energy then Hulk’s dont stand a remote chance as for couldnt contain post crisis magog Id like to see the feat in question.

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Cause here it looks like he did a good job against him.

As for the pocket universe it had galaxies; a justice league with the exact same powers and and for “never replicated“ what part of he did it three times over did you not understand? The statement of it not being usual can only apply to the first time.

And these are just some feats of Captain Atom and they don’t even need to be universal I can get lower ones that are star level that are still more than enough to say he’d drain hulk.

Overall flawed logic of Captain Atom can contain universal Amounts of energy arguing about if he can drain hulk isn’t debatable the only question is how long it would take you already lost the argument the moment you thought it was “this feat is wrong” when it’s more so Captain atom can contain “X“ amount of energy 4 Hulk’s is subsequently less.

Captain Atom would literally drain the energy prevenring anyone getting hurt.

Lightray is passively not hurt by electromagnetic radiation, he can absorb it, become it, change it to something less harmful, and he can teleport himself and others.

As for my argument that the 4 Hulk’s get drained its original and considering Captain Atom has drained larger energy sources that are even universal Hulk is getting reduced to banner in seconds not minutes probably less then a second.

Respectfully the initial Gamma wave would get absorbed entirely by Captain Atom who has absorbed greater amounts of energy on a regular basis.

In fact Hulk doing a gamma blast even involuntarily is the worst thing he could possibly do as Captain Atom in character contains blasts but would just absorb until they back to banner. Where as if they didn’t he may not realise immediately they radiating gamma energy.

Likewise Lightray New God of Light can just make the gamma rays harmless, he’s also a speedster, hes versatile, he can teleport, he can go intangible and he can absorb all forms of light.

The Hulks get dog piled if they aren’t drained by Captain atom first, this is post crisis Captain Aatom the one that became monarch when he was morals off and absorbed all his versions across the multiverse and had enough energy to destroy a universe, and on another occasion absorbed the universe created by Parrallax in Zero hour he would drain the hulks in seconds not even minutes probably a second and I mean all 4 just looking at his draining/absorbing feats.

@djmasta: wth happened to my posts they’ve disappeared from the thread? Is this just on my screen can you see them? Idek what we was talking about now.