@enemybird said:
@sup3rn0va said:
Blackbeard was beaten by a Whitebeard that by all accounts belonged in a coffin, I don't really see how you can say he'd win here, especially since Luffy at this point has injured and evaded an attack from a Yonko who was in a much better condition than Whitebeard was even at the beginning of Marineford.
And there's the fact that Kaido is implied to be stronger than Old Whitebeard to top it all off.
The only saving grace Blackbeard has is Whitebeard's devil fruit, but it matters little when he's slow and not very durable.
Sakazuki was also defeated by WB in the same condition. Surely you don't think Luffy could beat him?
Luffy dodged a generic mace swing from Kaido. Lets not pretend like that puts him over whitebeard in any quantifiable way.
Kaido is not and was not implied to be stronger than WB. All the statements made about Kaido (strongest creature, strongest pirate best at 1v1s) happened after WB's death which makes it unclear as to whether this included WB or not. Hell Big Mom looks better than Kaido right now.
You are massively underrating BB. He almost killed Ace with like 4 generic punches. The same Ace that fought Jinbei for 5 days. While taking additional damage, he got up from a direct attack from Sengoku and Whitebeard. BB cn take away luffy's immunity from blunt attacks with one hand and slam a quake in his face with the other while punching him with massive power.
Luffy knocked Kaido out of his dragon form before. We dont even know if Kaido felt this. as of chapter 1,000 BB wipes the floor with Luffy.
Akainu's defeat and Blackbeard's defeat are completely different, Blackbeard didn't even injure Whitebeard and got completely no diffed, it's also pretty obvious he used the last of his strength to defeat Akainu, lastly he was rage boosted by Ace's death.
It puts him over a Whitebeard that should by all accounts already be dead, far above him in fact.
The Ace novel does actually imply if not outright state that Kaido > Old Beard, it states Whitebeard was the greatest at piracy but in a fight Kaido would win.
Not underestimating Blackbeard, you're vastly overestimating him. Ace's feats are what exactly? Fighting Jinbe and clashing with a Yamato years before the current day? And let's not forget that Ace did decent damage to Blackbeard as well. A Jinbe from years prior to where we're at now in the story, irrelevant. He could if he was fast enough or durable enough to take more than a couple hits, hell, G2 Pre-timeskip Luffy already blitzed him.
Kaido is pretty clearly spitting blood from Luffy's attack and looks like he was on the verge of being KO'd.
Pre-TS Blackbeard wiping the floor with current Luffy is funny when Blackbeard + his entire crew ran away from Akainu
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