StormFan101

People need to stop lowballing Wiccan. Yes Franklin has more feats but that simply because Wiccan is gay. Not to be that guy but seriously what LGBT character is actually living up to their potential? Chavez is doing OK, Iceman and Northstar are fine but let's be honest they're only really highlighted during pride month. Wiccan has already been stated to be the most powerful magic user. Dormammu, Morigun, Loki, and Hellstrom all recognize him as the Demiurge which is a being of great magical power. Wiccan has high feats that people with ignore or try to lowball. Even if you want to ignore him creating a dimension that existed outside of the multiverse (due to retcon) he is still able to view multiple realities at once and manipulate them. Pull anyone from those realities and put them back. Franklin can create universes but wiccan can manipulate realities (that houses multiverses) simultaneously. He was the only one who repelled Knulls symbiotes and wasn't overpowered meanwhile Dr. Strange had to become a god to push them back. And while the parasite he erased from existence isn't all that powerful by feats, she still managed to hold off Wiccan at about 60% of his true power. So while he hasn't lived up to his potential as much as Franklin he has more than enough power to contend with Franklin.

@giga_canon: I'm on my phone so I can't but it's in Avengers: No Road Home #5. It was a force field Nyx made. Keep in mind she was weakened at this point with 3 of her soul (power) fragments missing and she still easily slaughtered all of the Olympians including Zeus. Not even Hercules or Hulk with 1/3 of her soul shard could take her down. Just to scale how powerful she is.

@giga_canon: Wanda's hax is too consistent to be ignored she's broken out of force fields before. In fact she broke a forcefield that Vision, Spectrum, and Hercules couldn't escape from. Albeit they weren't trying to crush her but with her knowing sue she would be prepared for her forcefields.

Wanda and Sue would win. Wanda currently in comics is more powerful than zee while they both have the same level of skill and control over their powers so wanda would be able to take Z better than she could. Sue of course would end Mera. That leaves Z to fend off again Sue and Wanda and I don't see her being able to win against them two at the same time.

Just wanted to say that Scarlet is currently in full possession of the Darkhold and Chthon as she absorbed both into her soul and did so with no signs of mental or physical struggle. In fact she states that since she's spent decades mastering her pain she's more than ready for him suggesting that his her she has completely healed from her mental trauma. So at this point White Phoenix of the Crown isn't the biggest threat here. She has no battle feats since absorbing them but given house of m was and the chaos wave was a fraction of Chthon's power, I'm confident in saying she can stand toe to toe with white Phoenix.

Just wanted to say that Scarlet is currently in full possession of the Darkhold and Chthon as she absorbed both into her soul and did so with no signs of mental or physical struggle. In fact she states that since she's spent decades mastering her pain she's more than ready for him suggesting that his her she has completely healed from her mental trauma. So at this point White Phoenix of the Crown isn't the biggest threat here. She has no battle feats since absorbing them but given house of m was and the chaos wave was a fraction of Chthon's power, I'm confident in saying she can stand toe to toe with white Phoenix.

Hmm interesting because she'd have to blitz Wanda to get the win yet I don't see her blitzing her fast enough to take Wanda out. Wanda has reacted to quicksilver and a bloodlusted thor and since she's not going for the kill I can't see her blitzing her with enough speed to take her out.

Scarlet Witch and Wiccan. Zee is powerful but scarlet will be able to either counter zee. Wiccan while still easily rattled is amazingly powerful and battle tested. He'll be able to take out zach without a doubt.

@dami24434: Demiurge created the utopian parallel dimension which existed outside of the multiverse. Though he hasn't been seen much unlike Franklin, he's still capable of taking him.

Wanda wins. Similar to Zee she's an extremely powerful sorceress who's on par with the main male sorcerer of their universes. Wanda warps in character and has been in control of her powers since children's crusade. The recent retcon is that her power comes from her blood (her mother was the previous Scarlet Witch) and her being an actual witch is why she's so powerful aside from her being a nexus being *Scarlet Witch #1 (2016). So while zee is powerful wanda has the edge of having the power to negate or turn magical attacks back on her opponents. Even in hand to hand combat zee was trained by Bats, BC, and GA but scarlet was trained by CA, US Agent, and Hawkeye but she's never needed to rely on h2h though she does have decent feats. Overall the simple fact that Wanda can negate and deflect back attacks is what helps her edge out zee.