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@koays Are you also having trouble commenting across the comicvine websites forum?

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I believe that the omega level mutant of energy manipulation Gabriel summers aka Kid Vulcan aka Vulcan will once again be able to defeat the former king of the Inhumans Blackagar boltagon aka Blackbolt, while the daughter of Jean grey and former omega level mutant Rachel summers aka Marvel girl II aka Prestige will likely overwhelm and enslave the mind of the Inhuman princess Crystal amaquelin.

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@koays: Before I state my opinion I am curious as to whether you feel that the Omega Level mutant of energy manipulation Kid vulcan aka the former Shiar emperor Gabriel summers would be able to utilize his impressive powers to manipulate the source of all speed in the DC universe that is utilized by the Flash aka Barry Allen. Called the "speed force" it is known to be a nexus of energy, so would not the ultimate energy manipulator the Omega level mutant Gabriel summers not be able to utilize it as well, if not interfere with the ability of the Flash and Superman aka Clark Kent to use their speed related powers?

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@marvelfan1992: Quintavius Quirinius Quire aka Quintin quire aka Kid omega would of course lose battles against many different types of opponents. However in matters of the mind only Jean grey aka Marvel girl aka Phoenix would be able to contend with his awesome computation speeds and tremendous mental powers which are unequaled by any other because he is an omega level mutant of telepathy!

As far as en sabah nur aka Apocalypse aka -[A]-, you are correct in stating that he was injured however the Dr. Reyes aka Cecilia reyes aka Forcefield informs us that en sabah nur was other wise stable until the daughter of Jean grey Rachel summers aka Marvel girl ii aka Phoenix ii aka Prestige was able to enter his mind. Only through great strain and ripping open the injury he sustained at the hands of the original horsemen of the apocalypse was En sabah nur able to boot her from his mind. If a telepath with limits that are surpassable such as Rachel summers is able to harm his brain then a telepath without such limits such as Kid omega or Jean grey would easily control his mind. Omega means that they cannot be surpassed.

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@vusalaynor- Jean grey aka the current omega level mutant of telepathy has repeatedly showcased her abilities since the beginning of the new millenia of Johnathan hickman aka the current head of x. She has proven that she cannot be defeated in matters of the mind and that she is superior in many ways to her younger counterpart and fellow omega level mutant of the mind Quintavius quire.

The variations of Jean grey from the fox movie timeline earth 10005 portrayed by Femke janssen and Sophie turner have very little meaning in this discussion as their greater power levels are derived from a secondary personality within them known as the Phoenix.

Within the realm of earth 616 Jean grey is the current omega level mutant of telepath and as such has greater mental abilities then indiviuals such as Maximus boltagon aka Maximus the mad and Nathaniel grey aka X-Man aka the mutant shaman aka mutant x. The latter individuals have been able to manipulate the minds of beings such as en sabah nur, Blackagar boltagon aka Black bolt aka the midnight king and even Ororo munroe aka Storm the current omega level mutant of weather manipulation.

I feel as though you are also colored with bias against the character of Jean grey and as such are giving an inaccurate assessment of the battle

@del_torro as I have written in my above response to the other user, the current omega level mutants of telepath are unsurpassable. Therefore no matter the amount of migraine you endure or overcome they will be able to deliver more then you have previously experienced. The Annihilation aka the mask of the dark world amenth is not an omega and therefore is irrelevant to this discussion.

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If you believe that you are proving a point by posting insults you are mistaken. I stand by my statements about the inferiority of Ororo munroe aka Storm's ability to withstand mental assaults when compare to the power of Jean grey aka the current omega level of telepathy whose power over the mind is nigh limitless. Your rudeness does not change this for me nor does it factor into my opinion of either of these near invincible omega level mutants.

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It is my belief that the two omega level mutants Ororo munroe aka Storm the omega level mutant of weather and Robert drake aka the Iceman the omega level mutant of negative temperature would be able to more then overpower their opponents here utilizing the Iceman's global ice field. As he is the omnipotent master of negative temperature he would naturally defeat his lesser Alec holland aka the Swamp thing, the embodiment of plant life. Susan Storm richards aka the Invisible woman and her brother Johnny storm aka the Human torch the Iceman's lesser mirror will be unable to defend against the superior and unsurpassable power of the two omegas. I am unfamiliar with Mera the queen of the ocean, however I believe she is inferior to the power of the unlimited omega level mutants when paired together.

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The former omega level mutant and current Captain britain, Betsy braddock aka Psylocke I and her partner Anna marie aka Rogue would likely defeat their opponents as Betsy braddock is capable of creating numerous variations of psionic weaponry that would allow her to defeat her opponents with less diverse ammunition. Anna marie however will easily gain the powers of her opponents and defeat them with the combined powers of Benjamin grimm aka The thing, and Princess koriand'r of tamaran aka Starfire. With their durability she would be able to defeat she be able to become a superman like entity and who is unbreakable and with incredible speed and strength but greater heat vision.

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IMO if the former mutant and current inhuman Wanda maximoff aka the Scarlet witch is able to change the fabric of reality as user @candymandy3366 has stated then all other combatants will be unable to over come her. I do believe however that Illyana rasputin aka Magik aka the ruler of the inter dimension limbo would be able to stop this from occurring as she has in the past when she defeated the elder gods of the limbo dimension. The limitless power of the mutant messiah and leader of The 5 aka Hope summers would otherwise be enough to swiftly end all debate on this subject as she would use her powers to increase the strength of her fellow omega level mutants the master of magnetism Erik lensherr aka Magneto and the weather witch Ororo munroe aka Storm to their greatest potential while emulating them herself. Wanda maximoff would need time to gather herself and the inner recesses of her mind in order to defeat everyone here in one maneuver.

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@marvelfan1992: Quintavius Quirinius Quire aka Quintin quire aka Kid omega would of course lose battles against many different types of opponents. However in matters of the mind only Jean grey aka Marvel girl aka Phoenix would be able to contend with his awesome computation speeds and tremendous mental powers which are unequaled by any other because he is an omega level mutant of telepathy!

As far as en sabah nur aka Apocalypse aka -[A]-, you are correct in stating that he was injured however the Dr. Reyes aka Cecilia reyes aka Forcefield informs us that en sabah nur was other wise stable until the daughter of Jean grey Rachel summers aka Marvel girl ii aka Phoenix ii aka Prestige was able to enter his mind. Only through great strain and ripping open the injury he sustained at the hands of the original horsemen of the apocalypse was En sabah nur able to boot her from his mind. If a telepath with limits that are surpassable such as Rachel summers is able to harm his brain then a telepath without such limits such as Kid omega or Jean grey would easily control his mind. Omega means that they cannot be surpassed.

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@vusalaynor- Jean grey aka the current omega level mutant of telepathy has repeatedly showcased her abilities since the beginning of the new millenia of Johnathan hickman aka the current head of x. She has proven that she cannot be defeated in matters of the mind and that she is superior in many ways to her younger counterpart and fellow omega level mutant of the mind Quintavius quire.

The variations of Jean grey from the fox movie timeline earth 10005 portrayed by Femke janssen and Sophie turner have very little meaning in this discussion as their greater power levels are derived from a secondary personality within them known as the Phoenix.

Within the realm of earth 616 Jean grey is the current omega level mutant of telepath and as such has greater mental abilities then indiviuals such as Maximus boltagon aka Maximus the mad and Nathaniel grey aka X-Man aka the mutant shaman aka mutant x. The latter individuals have been able to manipulate the minds of beings such as en sabah nur, Blackagar boltagon aka Black bolt aka the midnight king and even Ororo munroe aka Storm the current omega level mutant of weather manipulation.

I feel as though you are also colored with bias against the character of Jean grey and as such are giving an inaccurate assessment of the battle

@del_torro as I have written in my above response to the other user, the current omega level mutants of telepath are unsurpassable. Therefore no matter the amount of migraine you endure or overcome they will be able to deliver more then you have previously experienced. The Annihilation aka the mask of the dark world amenth is not an omega and therefore is irrelevant to this discussion.

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@koays said:
@vusalaynor said:

AH!! I CAN'T WITH YOU JEAN FAN!! you people really are a cult

OMG.....are you denying the power of the Omega level of telepathy? Jesus....can you believe this buddy @starchyldetsuna....clearly these people are missing something.

Not denying anything!

But I still would like to see an Omega Telepath straight up penetrate or overpower Apoc level resistance as most Omega TP(Jean) fans claim they can do.... outside of speculation.

I mean, Omegas and telepaths are really cool characters, but absolutely not unbeatable.

T2 ftw

I believe you are correct about telepaths and Omega level mutants being capable of losing battles, however it is clear that your doubts about the Omega of telepathy Jean grey aka Marvel girl aka Phoenix are based on a lack of understanding of what an omega level mutant is capable of.

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Here you see the daughter of Jean grey, Rachel summers aka Marvel girl II aka Phoenix II aka Prestige entering the mind of En sabah nur aka Apocalypse aka -[A]- and utilizing the images of his own children the original variation of his horsemen Death, Pestilence, Famine and War to cause him great pain and agony. The daughter of Jean grey is no longer an omega level mutant and is in fact a former omega level mutant, therefore her power will never be as great as that of Jean grey who is the current omega level of telepathy.

As Apocalypse was unable to deal with the pain inflicted upon him by Rachel summers who will never be able to become the omega level of telepathy he will not be able to match or withstand the onslaught of the powers of the far superior omega level abilities of Jean grey.

As shown here on the image provided by Jonathan hickman the current head of x the description of an omega means that there power cannot be surpassed, therefore Jean grey would be able to defeat en sabah nur because he will be unable to surpass the power of her mind.

En sabah nur < Rachel summers <∞< Jean grey

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