Slayedigneel

@aka_aka_aka_ak:

A tired SSJ2 Goku was fighting on par with ssj2 caulifa/and SSJ Kale.

She doesn't stand a chance against a fusion of even stronger saiyans, than then.

Base Gogeta stomps.

Give Revan the starforge and nothing short of DE Sidious could stop him.

@swagbender: It's evident that Force strength ties in with willpower. And essentially force strength is all that is really needed in force battles, because it applies to physical augmentation etc. Your mental state is also a factor you need to take into account when drawing on the force. Revan's very being was about to split.

@swagbender:

This was an Insane/drained Revan who had just waged a 300 year mental war with Vitiate and the dread masters, and was at the point of his spirit being split into light and dark Revan. I don't see any inconsistency of him being defeated.

@azronger: No it doesn't, otherwise we'd have to make some pretty stupid cases.

@in-sidiousvader:

Other boards have him even higher, than what ant says.

Lol.

Kota ram.