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@rdcdesmond: the novel is not canon anymore, it was a novelization of the movie which was made non canon by the manga/anime.

If the movie isn’t canon anymore than the novelization of a non canon movie makes the material non canon by extension.

Yeah I think it should just be a real simple popular vote count.

@gelato_exotic: you contradicted yourself with the vegito example.

Vegito was turned to candy but still had consciousness, speech, flight, and a power level, so even though he was affected by it he resisted it majorly compared to everyone else hit by it.

@batmanplusjay: how is that proving your point?

Paper beats rock but that doesn’t mean paper is stronger than rock, it’s just a matchup.

@batmanplusjay: he hard counters her with his absorption, he doesn’t have to be more powerful than her to beat her.

@asurakj: why do you think momoshiki is more powerful than kaguya out of curiosity?

Guy kills him if he lands a night guy, he definitely produces more heat than regular fire lol

@eredin12: you haven’t debunked anything, the only time meteors actually came from space they had a reentry effect(the last). You are assuming these came from space and your only lifeline to keep assuming this is that the entire staff for the manga and the anime just forgot to add reentry effects.

The burden of proof is upon you to show that it changes density, I have provided a translation of the data book and you haven’t provided any canon counter material.

If the raikages density was lessened he would have become much weaker, it’s very clearly affecting gravitational force upon things which is literally why ohnoki can fly.

You have not produced anything actually inline with canon to support your argument.

Headcanon assumption they came from space (no re entry speed)

Headcanon assumption that ohnokis justu messes with density when the data book says it affects how gravity interacts with you. (Which is literally supported by every use of the jutsu on panel)

Ohnoki tanking the first meteor when he almost died from the second one. (Literally said on panel he was severely wounded)

@eredin12: except in the last when moon pieces were falling as actually meteors they were on fire, so it shows that they can properly demonstrate reentry speeds.

The meteors did not fall at reentry speeds, if they had been traveling at anything even remotely close to that it would have produced a massive crater which it did not.

Ohnoki took damage from the explosion of the first one crashing into the second, the idea that it perfectly split through and hit his little head directly is head canon and not supported by on panel evidence.

Also wrong again

https://narutoversity.wordpress.com/fourth-databook-jutsu-files/

Look for # 45 it’s the technique he uses to lighten weight, this is a translation for a data book and it clearly states that it affects the targets gravity and not its density.

Your explanation makes zero sense, if boxer A hits boxer B with two punches in the same spot both with identical power they would do the exact same amount of damage, or at least comparable.

Ohnoki went from “no sold” to almost dead and needed serious healing from tsunade.

He absolutely did not get hit by the first one, he just caught up to it while it was falling.

@eredin12: the meteors would have to be on fire to be at reentry speed, not debatable.

He could of pulled the land from an area nearby, they literally could not be coming from space because they would be on fire from reentry, again this is not debatable.

The second meteor did not hit him directly, that absolutely does not happen on panel.

Also making the meteor lighter does not affect its durability onoki is changing the affect gravity has on an object to make it lighter. It’s still the same material. if the jutsu worked the way you said it does than when onoki used it on the raikage it would have made him weaker and not more of a threat.

Also you mma example is absolutely ridiculous, because in the sport of striking there are many factors that factor into damage, how clean the shot landed, where it landed, how much power was put into punch 2 compared to punch 1. For onoki it is literally the same meteor landing in the same place.

If you have a health pool of 100 and the meteor does 10 damage if it lands on your head than it would do 10 damage twice for a total of 80. For onoki the second one did way more damage meaning he never tanked the first one, he was never actually hit by it.