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People drastically overestimate the gaps between the characters. Plenty of characters with comparatively little to their name have lasted more than a few seconds against Vader and Ahsoka. Bloodlust co...
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@hellothere5432:Sure. I request we agree to disagree on the Obi Wan rag dolling argument as we clearly aren't going to agree there.Happy to oblige.For a couple of seconds at best.Time aplenty for appr...
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@hellothere5432: We're dancing around the same points with little to no progress and I'm not interested in protracted agonising over details for points we both don't seem to remember any longer. Let's...
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@sonofdarkness said:KFV/Anakin is a better duelist in my opinion, but ROTJ Vader is more powerful, more experienced, and smarter. So he should win.This is most likely how this fight would go down if i...
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Light really isn't a good character for these threads lol
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I think the answer's pretty different depending on whether we're going by game mechanics or lore.
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@hellothere5432: Covid isolation's giving me some spare time, so I figured I'd make a response. Your "few days" which turned into two months' delay (all while you were perfectly active) looks awfully ...
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If they're not beating Sidious, they're not beating Yoda. The gap between them is marginal at best.Moreover, continuity establishes a strong precedent for two lesser opponents being unable to overcome...
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Judging by the time of thread creation, this is KotOR Revan, an iteration who scales below TPM Mace and Dooku. Obi-Wan takes this.
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@zapan871 said:That doesn't make it even remotely canon, but if you want to use alternate endings, while it isn't really relevant to this specific thread, in TFU 2 Vader stood up after enduring Starki...
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@sonofdarkness said: Bane should win.Banite scaling is flawed. We know that Palpatine killed Plagueis in his sleep, idk why people just automatically assume that each apprentice was more powerful than...
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@abrokentwig: If you knew AP from 2014, then I might know you? Unless you were a lurker. I can't say I was spending my break thinking about this stuff, but I'm sure I think about some things different...
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@zapan871:The Sidious Starkiller is facing here is at least far weaker, and I was focusing more on Vader, who endured a more potent version of this "amped" Galen's attack anyway (note that I don't hav...
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Technically by narrative intent, Obi-Wan as of TPM is already a cream of the crop swordsman. It's entirely conceivable that he's able to take on Bane with a blade, but he's probably outclassed with re...
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@hellothere5432: While I'm sorry to drive away anyone who appears to appreciate decency and respectfulness, I honestly didn't have that impression of you at first. You idolised a racist who went aroun...
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@abrokentwig: It's the one by LadyKulvax. The 2014 one was made by ILS.Also, just going to acknowledge your other post here; I assume I don't know you, but thanks.
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@tainted_rem: Someone might argue it, but it's not what I believe.
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Achieving Oneness is a circumstantial showing and not really something we can use to meaningfully compare characters.
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@hellothere5432:'There is no way to know whether Mace sensed Dooku's or even properly sensed Maul's power. 5 decades and 2 decades are not comparable at all. A master being 50 years younger than a app...
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@zapan871:Of course Marek was, with the novel even describing his nerves as going on fire among other things IIRC, and I don't doubt he would have eventually lost in a different scenario, my point is ...
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