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#1 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Well if we go by current characters with current knowledge, team 1 stomps

Vegeta is now WAY above what frieza was, he will go after him and kill him. Then its basically like the arc, except you have hit. Hit can handle black, and goku and vegeta can stomp, seal, or spirit bomb zamasu

Pretty much this...

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#2 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Makes me wonder how much weight he and Vegeta were using when they were training in those space suits while training with Whis.

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#3 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpnq said:

It's getting really good atm.

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#4 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Episode 57 was one of the best episodes I've seen in a long time. We never really had a solid fight where multiple (main) characters, both good and evil, we're really going at it. The Cell Jrs. comes to mind but that was more of a one sided beat down than a fight. This is probably the most suspenseful saga there ever was.

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#5 Edited by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Majin Vegeta. Anyone who says otherwise is sorely mistaken.

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#6 Edited by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrx1122: Feats for Pyron? I'm a little unsure on a couple of things.

Last I checked Pyron is made of pure energy. Beers has demonstrably shown he can nullify universal level energy blasts. Add in the rest and I'm leaning towards the team.

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#7 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@arcus1 said:

Combustion Man could already take Katara and Toph

P'li can take Azula

Together the duo wins

This

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#8 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio
@ad-arts said:

@scotchbear: yet goku goes ssj2 against trunks for their mini fight, even though he should be able to stomp him in base as well.

DId at any point Goku say, he went SSJ2 because he had to? NO. Goku can control his KI. Just because he goes SSJ, does not mean he cannot lower his KI to the other guy's level, because he can.

Trunks can't feel Godly Ki. In order to gauge Black's power Goku had to use normal ki.

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#9 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

If you operate under the assumption that Goku was utilizing God Ki in his fight with Trunks, which I don't, then we can assume he's extremely powerful. Regardless, he should still be above BoG characters:

@apex_pretador

Goku - "It is Unbelievable that you reached such a level of power on your own. I'm surprised." in 13 years despite himself reaching nearly kid buu level in 7 years on his own.

Beerus - "This boy is also quite impressive" despite calling EVERYTHING below SS3 goku BoG trash. He also called BoG SS3 goku & Rageta impressive.

Kid Trunks - "They are amazing!! What? Goku is being pushed back? Unbelievable" despite being unable to push BASE vegeta back as gotenks.

I think it's safe to assume that even without the God Ki infused power ups, both Goku and Vegeta became exponentially more powerful post BoG & Universe 6 arc. Training under Whis not only allowed them to reach God Ki, it also gave them a base-line power boost.

Since we don't have an accurate methodology for calibrating the strength of everyone in Super, I'm inclined to agree that his base form is above SSJ3 BoG Goku/Rageta, however unlikely that may seem. Quotes and feats truly are our best friend here...

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@mrx1122: I think he should be at the very least majin vegeta lv?

Not at the very least. He called fight with Dabura and Babidi intense. Majin Vegeta would wtfstomp them. Trunks is somewhere between Gohan ( vs Dabura ) and Majin Vegeta lvl.

We're not sure when that fight took place. We know that Trunks has been fighting Black for over a year, but since the timeline suffered from numerous irregularities, we can't accurately assess how long it was before Babidi came to Earth. For all we know, he could've arrived shortly after he vanquished Cell in his timeline.

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#10 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

Monaka yamcha and krillin

Bringing out the big guns early...

On topic: If Gohan has no prior engagements and if we are to assume that he's still keeping up his training with Piccolo, the team should consist of: Gohan, Piccolo, Goku, Vegeta, and Monaka. Holding all other variables constant like the tournament rules, pre-screening tests, and Goku's ignorance of Monaka's true power, this is the most ideal team.

As far as Future Trunks goes I am not too sure that would be allowed. If he were allowed to compete he would replace Piccolo (assuming he is stronger at this point).