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IT + hakai. God bind + kienzen. IT bfr. Warp kamehameha. Barrier + giant form for a toss into space bfr. Goku stomps in h2h combat. Goku has better maneuverability with his flight and IT. Better range...
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@omega7373663: he does to
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@omega7373663: base goku from buu saga beats saitama low diff.
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Kienzen is a strong technique. Cell max beat up orange giant piccolo and took a kick from beast gohan and krillin's kienzen went right through one of his wings and his ki blast easily.
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Aniraza warped space with his power. Super buu let out a shout that was ripping apart dimensions and was collapsing dimension walls creating a rift in the universe. Goku flexing his power destroyed hi...
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@darkphantom9895: not the planet bust. Just certain characters not being able to breathe in space but in db kid goku went to the moon and was fine
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@darkphantom9895: a lot of db characters can't breathe in space but for planet busting to be a win con there would have to be factors. Like if it's in character. If the character is bl. If they'd have...
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@darkphantom9895: that's a non factor here. Saitama gets turned into mince meat by a kienzen from dbz krìllin. A kienzen from a dbs krillin isn't needed and is overkill.
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@omega7373663: saitama loses easily.
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@omega7373663: better skills + versatility + speed + IT + kienzen = gg saitama. Or he solar flares him then charges up a kamehameha then hits him with a warp kamehameha. Or just flat out beats him dow...
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@omega7373663: not a joke. Saitama gets IT blitzed then bisected like how buuhan was when base goku used a kienzen on him. And if saitama tried to swap hands he'd get embarrassed.
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With no time limit I think silver haired ui goku takes it. Silver ui goku mid fight against jiren got a speed boost, he can get rage boosts and there's an evolution aspect to ui in general as goku fig...
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Ssj 3 goku was said to have been able to beat kid buu. The daizenshu said ssj 3 goku is as strong as buuhan. Ssj 3 was stomping good buu. And ssj 3 goku's power was felt in the supreme kai's realm. Th...
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@darkphantom9895: apparently it's some higher dimensional time hax that's multiversal+ which doesn't mean anything. Even if it was ap related which apparently it isn't goku was at that level during bo...
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@darkphantom9895: if it's multiversal+ it's nothing impressive. Botg goku was already multiversal+ in base. It doesn't change anything. Base jiren was said to have transcended time with his power and ...
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@darkphantom9895: Current base goku multiple times > combined beerus and goku attack from botg > the attack beerus nullified and turned into nothing = shockwaves that threatened to destroy U7 an...
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@jaakor: they also have reality warping resistance. And something that was said about goku using kaioken in his ssj forms is that it would most likely result in immediate death. And goku has used kaio...
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Time hax doesn't work on goku and neither does reality warping if the reality warper isn't stronger than goku. If loki isn't stronger than goku in stats his reality warping isn't doing anything. Goku ...
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With miles feats and showings along with his venom powers I think he wins. Not sure what benefit the anti venom suit would give peter against miles. Miles is on some starkiller type stuff with his ven...
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