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@richubs said:

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Spiderman 2 is very good actually. Spiderman 3 and 1 aren't that good really. Spiderman 1 is very campy at times and bit in a good way while Spiderman 3 has story issues.

Spiderman 2 however has. A great story for its character and the villain is entertaining as hell.

Spider-man 1 was a product of its time (Nickelback was even in the soundtrack), they all were. 1 & 2 did a decent job at portraying Spider-man in the early 2000s, but 3 was just awful Emo dancing Spider-man and Topher Grace was a giant miscast.

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I never planned to see this in theaters, but I at least though I'd see this on Redbox, but now I'm not so sure.

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you plan on renting it

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That bad huh. It sounds like a movie to check out from the library or rent.

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@ravenvice01: I'd like to see Halle return. Moses would make a great final installment foe. Though I will admit my introduction to that character was through Spider-man.

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@ravenvice01: they did, it was One More Light.

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@ravenvice01: Nakia's death would be a dramatic gut wrenching moment that, would be captivating. If done right of course. I would love to see Storm enter the MCU, unfortunately it more than likely won't be Halle Berry.

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It's a good list. I think Tetu would make a great follow up villain to Killmonger.

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And the Justice League trailer had the "he knew you would come. Now let's just.... hope you're not to late" scene. What is your point?

Even then were people that thought that would be Green Lantern, and all kinds of rumors that were preposterous.

And these "die hard" Superman fans aren't going to go to the movies because they aren't sure how he'll be depicted? Are you sure you know what "die hard" means, Scotty?

A die hard fan is someone who is obsessed with something. I'm not talking about purists. I was just making some observations based on this.

Of course they were more popular than GoTG, but you've set the bar incredibly low. They weren't A or even B-list characters.

Thor wasn't a B-list character, but I would say Iron Man was. One he had a very popular animated series, which was still had reruns being aired at the time the movie came out. He had enough name recognition that people would be familiar with Iron Man by the time the movie came out, as I said no where near as recognizable as Spider-man, but he was no C-lister.

So.... if you're going to ignore solid reviews and box office success, what metric are you going to use to measure whether people liked Iron Man 2 and Thor?

That's your problem. You neglect evidence, and instead elect to pull evidence out of the ass.

Rotten Tomatoes isn't necessarily the best indicator of a film's reception, largely because of how RT determines a good review. A 3-5 five star review is considered good by RT standards, that's why Thor 2 and Spider-man 3 are consider good by RT standards, Metacritic does have a better ratings system though it's still not great. I never denied that people liked those movies, I just pointed out using an RT score isn't the best indicator of how well received a movie is. I know someone that like Biodome, and it's sits at 4% on RT and 1% on Metacritic.

What a shitty, tenuous and thin-veiled response. This is some of the worst debating and critical thinking skills I've come across in this site lol.

Venom did something to distinguish itself from other films in the genre and wasn't cought up in universe building, many thought it was fresh from looking at the previews. Meanwhile Justice League was more of the same to a lot of people and it didn't really do anything to make itself stand out.

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In all honesty the genre could end up like the Western Genre.

It could. Eventually. But that doesn't look to be soon, and if it does occur, it won't be because they recast Batman as another dude ^_^

Might not put the final nail in the coffin, but it may be one of many factors that could potentially kill the genre.

My point is that a superhero movie doesn't need Superman to succeed. Justice League or not, Batman and Wonder Woman are both brands that have proven to yield great success in and of themselves, and should be a big enough draw for viewers. Avengers: Endgame isn't utilising Spider-Man, Black Panther, most of the Guardians or Doctor Strange in it's marketing, yet you can bet your ass the movie will still be a tremendous success in spite of that.

I never said Super Hero movies needed Superman in order to succeed, my point was that you'd expect a Justice League movie to showcase all of it's members. Endgame did show Spider-man in it's marketing via TV screens showing fallen members.

Sure, Superman is a staple of the JL brand, but so are Batman and Wonder Woman, who should be enough to turn the movie into a success. Only a fool would think "you know, I love Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg, but I'm not going to see this movie merely because Superman might not be in it." Especially when anyone with half a brain knows he'll be resurrected.

It might have disinterested die hard Superman fans, sure they may know he's coming back, but not knowing how he'll be depicted following his resurrection may be offsetting. It's a good reason not to have killed him off in his second on screen appearance.

Neither of those films were weak. Iron Man 2 more than tripled it's budget, and for all it's flaws, was a functional, accessable, entertaining popcorn movie. It scored a 73% on Rotten Tomatoes, so it had solid reviews. Thor also tripled it's budget and had a 77% on Rotten Tomatoes. Bear in mind this was a C-list character who general audiences didn't care for at the time. I have no idea where you drew this conclusion of either of those movies being weak.

They were both utilized in very popular Saturday morning cartoons, and Iron Man even had his own. Sure they weren't as recognizable as Spider-man, but they were a lot more popular than the Guardians of the Galaxy prior to their on screen debuts. Even then 70 odd scores don't show a sign of greatness, Ghostbuster (2016) and Superman Returns have 70% scores on Rotten Tomatoes, and those films were baaaddd.

Um... so... you think that audiences will flock to see a Venom movie despite the reviews.... but the first ever movie with Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg and Aquaman all sharing the screen.... isn't critic proof?

It's a bizarre world we live in.

Even the Jackman's being replaced.

Further proof of my argument, then.

Just because it's happening doesn't mean it will be well received

That's.... a lot of maybe's lol. I haven't even scratched the surface of the continuity errors:

  1. There is a 20-year gap between First Class and Days of Future Past, but McAvoy and Fassbender both barely seem to age physically.
  2. In First Class, they introduce an adult version of Emma Frost in 1962. In X-Men: Origins, a teen version of Emma Frost is introduced, and that is set in the late 70s, almost two decades after.
  3. In The Last Stand, Moira is introduced as a Scottish geneticist who resides in Muir Island. In First Class, she is portrayed as an American CIA operative.
  4. The radically differing versions of Bolivar Trask in The Last Stand and Days of Future Past.
  5. The radically differing versions of Caliban in Apocalypse and Logan.
  6. In the first X-Men movie, Xavier discovers Logan for the first time. However, in First Class, which is set decades before, it is shown that Xavier meets Logan at a bar, attempting to recruit him, and in X-Men: Origins, also set decades before, Xavier is shown meeting Logan.

I think WB will follow this "who gives a f*ck about continuity?" approach.

The list never ends