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Glad most people agree on this. So many downplayers at first lol.

Glad most here and all of reddit agrees its a legit feat

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Well in the anime MUI Goku can probably already take Beerus in a close fight.

In the Manga he probably loses a majority but pushes Beerus to 100%.

By the end of the series I expect both Goku and Vegeta to be near Whis level.

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they can go into space for short bursts. But thats it.

Goku teleported into space and saved 17. So he can enter space. He just can't stay there.

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10x gravity is so minimal to them at this point it probably isn't even noticeable.

Goku stood up in a black hole, 10x gravity is nothing to him.

Vegeta was training at 450x gravity way back before the android arc.

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#5  Edited By Scotchbear

He can't hit us but we can't harm him. Stalemate

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#6  Edited By Scotchbear

@jack_hart: Goku was using UI wrong against Moro. They talk about how he's forcing it.

And UI omen is far less powerful than MUI

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@dangannopoopoo: he uses GoD energy in the Anime. He becomes a full God of Destruction so he has God ki

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@animeisniche_ok: if superman is powered separately by the sun yes. If the sun just makes his own personal strength higher then no.

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#9  Edited By Scotchbear

in the new chapter Vegeta can now forcefully remove 2nd hand energy, fused energy, and stolen energy from opponents and return it to its source.

What characters that Vegeta couldn't take before could he now have a chance against with this ability?

It only works if the opponent is drawing power from somewhere besides their own strength.

It allowed him to drain Moro of all his power he stole from planets.

This implies he can also forceful defuse merged characters.

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Vegeta can now forcefully remove stolen energy or fusion energy from an opponent.

So he could in theory now contend with characters who get energy from eating it, fusing for it, gathering it, etc.

This could let him take on someone like fully fed galactus as he could drain the planet energy that galactus eats.

Anyone who draws power from an outside source or another party would be vulnerable to this ability.