Sayo_Yasuda

@nightmarediablo712: The real life author expresses his authority via and avatar mentioned this thrice to be met with your same piled up refute on how I would be referring to real life humans with that stmt as a character coming out of fiction. The writer uses his avatar within fiction as a means to express himself and that avatar is meant to represent himself.

I never began claiming LON has the capability to control us or the animals or goddesses in real life. I exerted myself, to the point of the writers authority expressed through the avatar,which you have agreed to be what the real life author has "to represent himself and his status" within the verse , ya half baked pea brain...

So, finally as your refute below sums up, you have been misassociating two instances according to your selective convenience because you clealry have no idea what an omnilock signifies and thus looked over how I separated my claims, by confirming it being avatars I talk about and not real life. Your refutes on "how you addressed, already did" are price less. You have zero refute and still continue to do so.

I do not refute this because I agree. This is the reason you look insane for saying that LoN overrules the writer's avatar, who has just as much authority as the real writer. So again... you are saying that LoN overrules real life authority. Impossible.

If you can't find any other refute, I don't even need to repeatedly pick apart your selective ignorance guided by convenience . That's already been made clear.

What the hell are you even saying?

Me knowing what the fallacies are would signify "your ignorance" not whether "I have a delusion of grandeur or not".

Apparently my sentence went seventeen dimensions over your head...

I have justified what I've talked about, which you go ahead and take it out of context, under the label of misassociation as clearly specified.

You're too dense to understand my argument; and you are too dense to form your own sane coherent argument.

It's pretty clear, the English here would be too complex for a kid like you to go into .

You put a space between your last word and your period. That's a no no!

You not seeing, won't matter. I didn't correct it to be visible to kids that far up in their own butt.

Ramblings of the enraged insane.

Ah, we have a wrong phrase for "to begin with" in the end. You must feel pretty proud of yourself.

You don't know how prepositions work. Plus it's more of a speaking style these days.

That's pretty much the only thing you would have got me at. But it's by a grammarcheck function.

I've spotted several things and have pointed them out. I only used a grammar check function to point out to you that you're wrong.

You? A debator?

No, I'm a debater.

Yep, I got that drift over your incapability to address your own blatant misassociations, the redundant steelmans ,shifting the blame and then resorting to memes.

More inane whining while trying to sound intelligent.

Keep dreaming, "debator".

Why are you quoting something I've never said? I said I'm a debater, not a "debator."

@nightmarediablo712: firstly, I addressed authority as power not actual 3d power. That's your first attempt at redemption blown away already

Authority is a form of power. Even metaphorical authority is a form of power. Thus, a fictional character having authority over a real life writer, and or ignoring authority from a real life writer means that said fictional character can ignore reality and can exist independent of us, and can also have power (authority over us), as the real life writer needs permission from LoN. This is true insanity.

You repeated your same throwback theory after I just quoted it for you, on how the avatar of the "writer and sub writers" will possess the writers authority if you create it,which you talked over,putz. And it's been done by hajime already.

Foolish child... that backs up my points further and makes you look more insane. The writer's avatar has the same authority as the real writer, as it essentially is the real writer himself, but merely manifested in the story. So since you keep going out if your way to explicitly admit this, it means that LoN is overruling essentially real life authority, which is impossible. I've been addressing this the entire time. You admitting it makes you look even worse.

A fictional character can be omnilocked lmao

Not on a real life level.

Boi, you addressed nothing beside play around with fiction is 2d and authors are 3d so done.... That is in no way a refute to how the avatars of the authors are created to represent them inside fiction. Your deliberate ignorance here is pretty obvious, since your addressal has been resembling a moot from the first time.

You yourself said that the writer's avatar has the same authority as the real life author, as they are still one in the same. So again... you are essentially saying that LoN is overruling real life authority.

Me flexing won't excuse your fallacies and attempts failed to reclaim any argument whatsoever. Calling you a kid or an idiot will be an insult to all out there.

You're really triggered this much over a waifu? Newsflash...

Which is exactly why she can't overrule any form of real life authority.

You addressed nothing about the author superseding L samas authority because the author has defined lord of nightmares vs always been existing in the sea of chaos. Negating your theory of somehow the writer having created her.

I... What...? The writer created Slayers and LoN. The entire series wouldn't exist without him. You're saying LoN existed before Slayers was written in real life? What? Earlier you even admitted that he created LoN. So which is it? You can't even form a coherent argument.

Then added with the fact you have nothing, literally nothing close to even suggest a refute to why L sama consents whatever plot liked by her for the next book again, showing her superseeding the writers authority. And even if the writer stops writing which she did,L won't die

Because she is not real...

Next i quoted superseding writers authority,not being able to control other humans . Even though the writer having created the verse, he will have no control over characters defining an omnilock. That's why he asks for consent via his avatar at the end of the novels, to write the next novel.

You're saying that she has control over things that real life humans don't. Purely delusional.

Next we have another try hard attempt to reclaim your existing grasp of sanity by claiming you addressed my LON wank.

Oh but I have...

You were majoring in misassociation , then to shifting blame, then to refusal to addressal while saying you did blindly for the sake of an argumemt and now repeating your own failures over and over again, while refusing to even address or refute what you don't understand smh. Good try, baby

Calm down, little Timmy. You're so angry that you are using so many big words to the point none of them make sense and have all been used incorrectly. This entire section here is complete inane gibberish that is entirely incoherent. This isn't even readable, let alone English.

Oh, you said I don't know what an argument is...

Seems legit since I'm the only one actually able to expose your attempts on failure at a counter while having an argument over that which you still fail to address. Are you honestly this far up in your own butt??

You truly have delusions of grandeur if you think that you can stand on equal footing to me (let alone debunk me) in a debate.

I already edited the "he" to my earlier comment auto-correct much before your comment. You would still have no clue here what so ever.

I didn't see the edited version.

That's how "learnt" is spelt, kid. Not "learned", a comma is used to separate the two instances referred but you won't know about that. Would you? Kind of being a moron, aren't you? A comma separates two independent clauses/phrases,

Hm... just checked. Both are correct, but "learnt" is usually used in foreign countries outside the US and Canada. We're both half wrong. But no, a comma did not belong in that sentence. Here is your exact sentence...

Not "learned", a comma is used to separate the two instances referred but you won't know about that.

You misused a coma here too.

Do yourself that favour

What favor? What?

@nightmarediablo712: hilarious, you gave your opinion on what you would do to your avatar in fiction. And it's you expressing yourself through the only way in fiction. As hajime has already done. Did you address that?

Nope you formed a theory of hajime merely playing, yet her authority won't appear in the verse because she takes consent from L sama.

Humans do not have the power to give their fictional creations any authority over themselves; thus the writer is merely playing along. Common sense, child.

Characters being so, define an omnilock. Did you address that? Nah you compromised that while quoting me as wanking.

A fictional character cannot be omnilocked from their real life writer. And you are wanking... Wanking your poorly written waifu.

Did you resemble anything close to an addressal beside further your ignorance?

You went on an attack over myself while skipping the point, which is what is called ad hominem.

I addressed your argument in the first part of my point, then pointed out your lack of intelligence afterwards. I like how you spew fallacies from your ignorant mouth in some vain attempt to flex your robust vocabulary. You are honestly a joke. Heh.

Your asinine argument involved routing the convo to an attack toward myself while ignoring the "addressal of how an omnilock is established", "how the writer indeed can only talk in the verse via her avatars" and then over "how I said why the writer named her so in the verse "

Me addressing your other points already deals with omnilock. The writer can "communicate" with her fictional characters however she wants. Whether that be in her mind, an avatar put in the story, ect. It's up to the authors imagination on how to communicate with their characters.

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Your resort to shifting the blame is already lost again.

I said the writer can only express himself via any avatar, supporting my point of superseeding the writers authority. You threw up another association fallacy to real life humans and goddesses which I never brought up in the first place.

Again, a fictional character superseding her real life writer means that said fictional character can effect the real world. Do you see how mental you look when you spew such garbage?

Also, you called the Slayers creator a "her" and now a "him." Which is it?

Learn to read, instead of "trying to argue just for the sake of an argument" .

I even quoted fiction vs reality as not being what I'm talking about here,in an above post. You still went ahead with your blatant misquoted associations.

I've addressed how your LoN wank of superseding the writer already makes your argument mean LoN>real life. You're the only one here who can't read...

The author can express himself only via any avatar, which is meant to have the same authority within the verse. But he dosent, because there is someone else who exists outside the verse.space time reality... Defining an omnilock. For goodness sake, your entire argument signifies you have no idea of the thing you "try" to talk of.

Already addressed this.

Now you are appealing to age? I'm well versed in fiction and characters and know how to talk about them instead of needing to depend on a philosophical definition while applying it on a concept that you proved having no idea whatsoever.

"Appealing to age." Oh my... The amount of times you have thrown around the phrase "appealing to" incorrectly is ASTOUNDING, my friend! The rest of this part is just gibberish.

You don't know the verse.

Funny... Were you not the one running around to people in PMs asking them for LoN feats? Specifically pertaining to her beating up the writer? How hypocritical... You don't even know the feats you are arguing for and are asking others for them. (Don't bother trying to deny this. I already know.)

You don't know what your own contrary is.

Friend... I highly doubt you even know what contrary means (as you misuse other words and phrases as well).

You don't what is the crux of an argument is or how to address it without talking over it.

You don't know what an argument is period.

Ever Learnt to understand how English words work,in the first place?

When you insult someones English and fail to even spell the word "learned" correctly in the same sentence. Ha! A comma shouldn't belong there either; nor do you put a word right after a comma without spacing it. Again... age please?

His comment was laughing at you, silly. Why are you laughing with him?

@nightmarediablo712: You have capped each argument and gave a counter of nothing beside some petty shots.

I countered your oh so hilariously asinine logic in the first part of my post. I didn't debunk the second half because the second half was you repeating crap that I've already debunked.

Because I have given reasons for everything Ive said, kid. Ik the character and ik the verse, which is more than what I can say for you.

You know the verse? You don't even know what reality is.

Why do I say so? Because "ad hominems and ad nauseum aren't magically becoming a counter to any of my points" Learn what you talk about, kid instead of throwing around words beyond your understanding of English.

Funny, because you are throwing around random fallacies without even knowing the meaning to them.

I'm not saying she controls real life humans, kid. I never mentioned real life anywhere.

I mentioned this many times. "writers authority"

Overruling the authority of a real life human means she can effect real life. You don't even understand your own argument.

Your argument would actually be with yourself.

And your argument is with your own mind trying to figure out the difference between real life and fiction.

You say I'm appealing to stupidity, yet I'm the only one who is able to support what I say. I'll tell you this again, do your research before talking riddled with fallacies on top of another or take the other option to keep whining while addressing nothing.

How old are you?

@nightmarediablo712: If you write a fictional character to supersede you, you would obviously give it more authority within fiction to do so, as was what's hajime has done and shown. Your argument is lost already.

Wrong. At most I could give my creation more authority than a fictional avatar of myself, but that's it. Unless I can do some weird ancient magic ritual in real life to make my character exist in real life, then it will never have more authority than me. Even if I delude myself into thinking that my creation has authority over me, it never really will in reality. You're just another LoN wanker.

The author is playing with her creations? That's your talk beyond the story. So, the author plays with her character to keep telling her what to write for the next part,novel ??

Yep. She's playing with her creations via a self-insert fictional avatar she wrote into her own story, and made LoN stronger than her FICTIONAL avatar. That's all.

There is no showing of the author to be above her authority.

Except LoN's writer is real, while LoN is not. The writer stops writing the story of Slayers in real life, then LoN stops as well.

A shovel would do nothing but reinforce how ridiculous the author is to her creation and it's been said multiple times.

Your argument is that of a child who hasn't learned the difference between reality and fiction yet.

L sama is infinitely beyond the sea of chaos which is made up of infinite staves within, each stave having infinite possibilities and universes within. And she is everything in her verse. Verse is nothing to her.

Then LoN is simply 7-D. Far from omnipotence.

Again with the ad nauseum of bringing a psychiatrist since you actually can't argument the point presented to you and why it is so. You are compromising your own words.

Because anyone with a properly functioning brain can see that your "argument" is merely the ramblings of an insane man. Open your eyes, foolish one.

The first point of yours talked about the same thing labelled from philosophy and the writers being 3d and fiction being 2d.. Uh so 2d can't affect 3d . Done.

The writer is real. LoN is not. If LoN could supersede her writer (a real life person), then you are essentially saying that us humans in real life are at the mercy of a multiversal goddess that has transcended fiction and has reached our real world.

You talked over the whole point that the writer dosent think herself as beyond L sama and whatever she keeps writing, are with L Sama's consent. As was why she created L in the first place. Why??

The writer playing with her little toys and pretending.

To supersede her authority over the verse.

The fact that at one point she beat-up the author with a shovel does nothing but increase the sheer ridiculousness of the stature of a writer to someone like L sama. It never helped your argument, whatsoever.

LoN beat up a fictional drawing that represents the writer that was made by the real writer. The writer wrote those events in the first place. You're insane.

The writers talks through her avatar in the comics. The writer does so, to get her consent. As its clearly presented. Fr?

The writer cannot talk otherwise to her creation without an avatar in the first place. There go your next steelman

You actually need help... Go tell your parents to arrange a meeting with a psychiatrist (I'm not joking).

The writer needs the avatars to get consent from L sama so that she can write the next Novel. The writer isn't writing her thing. It would be a plot presented using her avatar. Honestly, how dense are you to keep conveniently looking over this fact?

Not dense enough to think that a fictional character has power over us humans.

The character can be 2d, the writer who writes her still won't be over her. Thats what defines an omnilock. There is nothing above the character.

You'd actually go this far just to wank your dumb waifu... Wow...

Hajime neither the subordinate writers considers themselves to be above the authority of L sama, which is why, they talk to her using avatars to decide on the next suitable plot for the novel.

Dumbest thing I've ever heard. Waifus need to be banned in order to prevent such asinine obsession to the point people wank their waifu to where they think that she has power over real life.

The only game you played (and likely will continue to do so) is blatant misinterpretation of the context while appealing to philosophy.

And you're appealing to psychotic waifu wank. Your mental deficiencies know no bounds. Again, you really need serious help.

@nightmarediablo712: there you go trying to bring up the same omnipotent label from philosophy.

What?

She having created the verse won't bring her authority over someone who she thinks is above her plainly.

I don't quite follow what you mean here...

That's written by the writer hajime who uses her own representation within fiction to represent who she is.

So the writer made a fictional version of herself for LoN to beat up... So LoN merely beat up another fictional character, which is not superseding the real writer, whom is writing all of these events in the first place.

This humans being 3d and fiction 2d isn't actually any argument here.

It's not about 2-D or 3-D. LoN is fictional, her writer is not. The end.

What you picked out wasn't the joke. What you picked out was an instance showing authority over the writers. It isn't even a shovel everytime since a "shovel" shouts out joke to you. Lmao

The fact at one point she beats up the author with a shovel shows that this entire concept of her superseding the writers is a joke.

L sama is everything within the verse and it is she who decides what happens in the verse, as is why the writers would be talking to her about further plots.

She has control over her fictional verse. The end. The writers are merely playing along with this. She has no power over real people. That is literal insanity.

Your logic is that since the writer actually wrote her, the writer has authority over her.

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Um... yes... Quite so... If you think a fictional character has any control over and or can effect their real life writers in any way, then you need to go see a psychiatrist immediately.

Same writer who quotes L sama as everything there is ,who asks for permission on a suitable plot to put out from L at the end of several novels.

Again, the author is merely playing with her creations by inserting a fictional version of herself into her works. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Your whole "it being a joke thing" never applied in the first place.

Multiversal reality warping goddess beating up her writer with a shovel is clearly a joke.

So, instead of actually addressing the point the writer made, you keep using ad nauseum to avoid it. And continue steel man over to a label applicable for philosophy on real world vs fiction.

So if I write a fictional character to supersede me, will it happen? Can my creation effect real life? Of course not. Otherwise we'd have much bigger problems on our hands. Or are you implying that LoN (the fictional character) simply got too strong for the writer to handle? How the hell does that work?

Gg

No. Good game to you, fool.

@nightmarediablo712: First off, learn to tag...

Again, what the author defines her to be are what's clearly shown at the end of almost all of the slayers novels. L sama supersedes the writers authority.

Second off... LoN "superseding" the writer was written by the writer in the first place, making this fundamentally impossible. You'd have to have some type of legitimate mental disability where you are unable to distinguish reality from fiction to think that LoN (a fictional character) can "supersede" anything in the real world.

If you say it's a joke you need to provide some confirmation of how it's a joke beside the omnipotent label from philosophy.

Beating the author with a shovel is clearly a joke.

@nightmarediablo712: Many non-omnipotent beings (and beings far below LoN) at that have been described as "Beyond comprehension." Such a statement holds little to no value or weight by itself. As for the meta feats... she is a fictional character. Even these meta feats were written by the writer, otherwise LoN would be incapable of this, as she's mere fiction. Meta feats are a joke and cannot be taken seriously, let alone be compared to omnipotence.

@nightmarediablo712: Who has said L same to be beyond anything comprehensible and that ever is.

Flowery wording, my friend... Used to hype up many things in countless of fictions.

Any plot thats ever written has to be run by her first and if she isn't happy with it, End of discussion and her shovel comes banging.

This is just gag meta sillyness; not omnipotence.