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The Unknown God of DC

A bit bored, so I kept thinking and kicking this idea around for a while. Call it dumb if you want, but I think it's neat. Now I wanna clarify, I'm not sure if this has been established or hinted at in one story so I'm not trying to copy anybody. Lord knows I've not exactly read on Pre 52 stuff or anything older than that. So let's begin

A Golden Beginning

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Long before the Monitors and all the Crises, a much simpler time existed. In an era of depression, a mass of pure imagination lies in it, just waiting to be harnessed. This imagination starts to take form in a boy from a dead world. Hope and Justice fuel his very being and by merely being born and speaking, his presence still shakes through all of creation, even in realms separate from his. His power is raw and unfiltered, he can't do it alone. From him new beings arise to help him give this universe form. He needed someone to harness the darkness of his world, he needed someone who dwelled in it. He then realized he needed a woman's touch and someone to explore the realms of magic. Other disciples were born, but non higher than this Trinity of Creation.

Over time though, these beings started to get tired. While they had tried to limit themselves and bring order to creation, the imagination was still to pure and powerful. It is now when the created a new generation of heroes to take over.

Okay, bored

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Enough of this artsy writing. I think you get the jist, Golden Age Superman the one that started it all is the true God of the DC universe. HIm, alongside the Trinity and his apostles are the Golden center of all of creation, and radiating from them is pure imagination which is then filtered better by the Silver Age and then the Bronze Age. Only beings like Mr. Mxy and maybe the Monitors (not entirely sure what purpose they serve but I guess they would), know something about the Golden Center or maybe they are what lies behind the Source Wall. Their Godship isn't so much about being able to control all existence, but much more like the power that Michael Demiurgos. Except that it's basically above beings like The One Above All or the Prescence, becuase their power is both so pure/overbearing but also meta.

In the End

Not my best work, but I' m tired and this would require more research than I'm willing to do. This would also find a way to be tied into that Alternate Rebirth pitch I said a while ago. So while maybe this pitch maybe didn't do it for you, would the notion of the Golden Age Superheroes or mainly Superman being the God/s of DC do anything for you? Yay or Nay? Comment Below.

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Utter Brilliance!!!!...May the Almighty Kal-El be praised.

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Nice read.

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you did this because you were bored?damn am i impressed

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It's hard to not get cocky when you're this good

@jumpstart55: @king_majestros:

asian blessed asian people grateful aishwarya rai

you did this because you were bored?damn am i impressed

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Thanks. It was something that kinda popped up in my mind when I wrote down the Alternate Rebirth pitch. Speaking personally (and in no way am I gonna imply I'm better), the stuff Morrison did always felt so try hard in terms of being Meta and just leaves me scratching my head. This is meta, but fused with the much better pantheon of the Vertigo Sandman God. This just feels more natural IMO

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So...wait...what was the point of this thread?

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So...wait...what was the point of this thread?

A) I do things like this when I'm bored

B) As an aspiring writer, I like constructive criticisms on ideas. Just felt like getting feedback

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@saintwildcard:

Here's one:

You know Injustice Y4 right? Gods vs Superman & Gang?

In the end, Superman & Gang triumphs, and all of a sudden, you have new gods replacing old, Supes replace Zeus, Diana replace Ares etc...

an all powerful entity engineered such a process. The end.

You can totally write that.

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@saintwildcard:

Here's one:

You know Injustice Y4 right? Gods vs Superman & Gang?

In the end, Superman & Gang triumphs, and all of a sudden, you have new gods replacing old, Supes replace Zeus, Diana replace Ares etc...

an all powerful entity engineered such a process. The end.

You can totally write that.

Wait... what am I doing?

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@lowlaville said:

@saintwildcard:

Here's one:

You know Injustice Y4 right? Gods vs Superman & Gang?

In the end, Superman & Gang triumphs, and all of a sudden, you have new gods replacing old, Supes replace Zeus, Diana replace Ares etc...

an all powerful entity engineered such a process. The end.

You can totally write that.

Wait... what am I doing?

Well you are an "aspiring writer".

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Well you are an "aspiring writer".

Yes bu.... nevermind

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All hail the Kryptonian god

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@amazing_webhead: only now does it occur to me that you may have been sarcastic.... Were you?

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Although I loved the text, I can't really in good consciousness say that Superman is the god of anything. Maybe part of the problem is that too many people see Superman as a god, when he couldn't be more far from it.

Superman was a idea, if anything the idea to bring down divinity to our level. For millennia, men and women, have struggled to understand the will of gods, goddesses, demi-gods and all that lied between.

And so two highschool students, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster envisioned a man that was not born a god, but due to circumstances of fate would become the next best thing.

No more, people had to place their faith and beliefs in gods that choose to not show their faces. Now people had something/someone else to look up to. Sure, he was just ink in pages, but at least people could see him, could follow his adventures. And in a way in the attempt to create an icon, a symbol of the best humanity had to aspire to, they created tens, then hundreds, then thousands of new gods. Men had become gods.

They then (and now) could envision a world a character and give it life. Shape him or her to be whatever they wanted it to be.

The new gods had been born.

And for a time it was good.

People cared more about being original than simply copying each other. And so for a time it was good.

For a time, imagination was free to inspire, not just the demi-gods(readers) but also potential new gods to come into the light. And for a time it was good.

But then like almost all things made by our species,the new gods and demi-gods, broke the rules, played to win at any cost. And then all was not good.

Instead of trying to be original, the goal was to beat the each other in their own personal games. So both the new gods and demi-gods went at war with each other.

And finally we arrive here... Dawn of the 21st century. And things couldn't be more broken. Originality is scarce, good writers with new groundbreaking ideas are also scarce. And the war goes on. Gods against gods, demi-gods against demi-gods. Old gods against the new and the new against the old.

There once was a age of wonders, brought to us by comic books, but now the awe the wonder is mostly gone.

The old age of being inspired and feeling inspired, is all but a faint memory. The creations of the gods turned on each other also, all grabbing for any bit of scrap from the glorious first days.

Never really understanding that the more apart they are, the more easy it as become to create sloppy work. The old gods try to create but they are stuck in a endless cycle of recreation. While the new gods, that try to create something new are met with fearsome opposition. Because a lot of the old gods and demi-gods don't know when to admit that their time is gone, that they held on to their thrones for far too long, and that the more they fight change the more change will fight them. They should delegate themselves to the role of mentors and leave the new age for those that can understand the new age and what lies beyond it.

So in a way Superman has lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

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Although I loved the text, I can't really in good consciousness say that Superman is the god of anything. Maybe part of the problem is that too many people see Superman as a god, when he couldn't be more far from it.

Superman was a idea, if anything the idea to bring down divinity to our level. For millennia, men and women, have struggled to understand the will of gods, goddesses, demi-gods and all that lied between.

And so two highschool students, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster envisioned a man that was not born a god, but due to circumstances of fate would become the next best thing.

No more, people had to place their faith and beliefs in gods that choose to not show their faces. Now people had something/someone else to look up to. Sure, he was just ink in pages, but at least people could see him, could follow his adventures. And in a way in the attempt to create an icon, a symbol of the best humanity had to aspire to, they created tens, then hundreds, then thousands of new gods. Men had become gods.

They then (and now) could envision a world a character and give it life. Shape him or her to be whatever they wanted it to be.

The new gods had been born.

And for a time it was good.

People cared more about being original than simply copying each other. And so for a time it was good.

For a time, imagination was free to inspire, not just the demi-gods(readers) but also potential new gods to come into the light. And for a time it was good.

But then like almost all things made by our species,the new gods and demi-gods, broke the rules, played to win at any cost. And then all was not good.

Instead of trying to be original, the goal was to beat the each other in their own personal games. So both the new gods and demi-gods went at war with each other.

And finally we arrive here... Dawn of the 21st century. And things couldn't be more broken. Originality is scarce, good writers with new groundbreaking ideas are also scarce. And the war goes on. Gods against gods, demi-gods against demi-gods. Old gods against the new and the new against the old.

There once was a age of wonders, brought to us by comic books, but now the awe the wonder is mostly gone.

The old age of being inspired and feeling inspired, is all but a faint memory. The creations of the gods turned on each other also, all grabbing for any bit of scrap from the glorious first days.

Never really understanding that the more apart they are, the more easy it as become to create sloppy work. The old gods try to create but they are stuck in a endless cycle of recreation. While the new gods, that try to create something new are met with fearsome opposition. Because a lot of the old gods and demi-gods don't know when to admit that their time is gone, that they held on to their thrones for far too long, and that the more they fight change the more change will fight them. They should delegate themselves to the role of mentors and leave the new age for those that can understand the new age and what lies beyond it.

So in a way Superman has lived long enough to see himself become the villain.

This.

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@heavenlydarkdragon: nice write up, but this seems to be more of a meta commentary on the writers and the consumers. Not sure entirely as to how this relates to the actual notion of Golden Age Superheroes being the gods of DC

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@saintwildcard said:
@lowlaville said:

So...wait...what was the point of this thread?

A) I do things like this when I'm bored

B) As an aspiring writer, I like constructive criticisms on ideas. Just felt like getting feedback

Work on your prose.

You shouldn't use third person pronouns so frequently. Especially not at the beginning of consecutive sentences. Here is a trouble area:

His power is raw and unfiltered, he can't do it alone. From him new beings arise to help him give this universe form. He needed someone to harness the darkness of his world, he needed someone who dwelled in it. He then realized he needed a woman's touch and someone to explore the realms of magic.

Not my best work, but I' m tired and this would require more research than I'm willing to do.

Lazy Mexican stereotype.

Every time you do a blog, I get a notification. And every time I get a notification, I get an email. Every time I get an email, my phone buzzes. And every time my phone buzzes, I check my phone. :)

Quit making excuses for yourself and get gud.

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@jonez_: BAKA!

I meant about the pitch!

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@saintwildcard:

Great post.

As for writers, Geoff Johns already implieed it, doesn't he?

And, As you said, Morrison has implied it in his works related to Superman, hasn't he?

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@overture2017: I don't remember that. I suppose he kinda did. But this is taking that concept and working it into a pantheon and making it more of a creator of all things (as well as giving props to WW and BM). Johns comment is vague, but it is there I'll give it that. It's mixing my favorite takes on creation like Zues and the gods, and works like the Vertigo Lucifer series and their pantheon.

Grant Morrison used him more as the ultimate weapon created by the MOnitors. He was created to combat darkness and could defeat the ultimate evil. For the most part, the Monitors and OverMonitor were still considered the gods of DC.