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#1  Edited By sacredweapons

Well god emperor doom is realistically = to Molecule Man. Molecule man after absorbing the powers of the beyonders is even stronger than he was before. So I'm going with Doom. Eternity is kinda irrelevant in this fight.

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Hellbat basically puts batman at mid kryptonian levels that are compensated for by his overall batmanness. Orion goes toe to toe with darkseid, batman survives darkseid. Orion is powerful enough to even beat superman on a good day. But without Astro force Orion loses out on a lot of his versatility, No more flight, shields, blast, etc. Even with this id give it 6/10 to Orion, His physicals are just way to high.

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Whos stronger, the concept of a balancing force only superseded by the creator of all things, or A really strong girl. Like REALLY strong.

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kind of hard to tell. Stronger than the run of the mill villain but weaker than your Hulks or Hyperions. When fighting Rizel it looks like his biggest pros is his size and bottomless pit. Since his stomach is like a infinite black hole, if you get sucked in you don't come back out. But he was also hurt and got a hole blasted in him by rizel (id say most similar to electro). Id say his durability is decent but not incredibly high.

So any character who is A. Slow and B. has no versatility is probably subject to losing.

Considering all that Id say his strongest easy win would be characters like Luke Cage or Absorbing Man. Thor and hyperion would just fly out of his suction. With the slower guys, even though they both held their own and even on rare occasions won against the best, they don't really have an answer once their off the ground. Maybe a thunderclap but other than that they just flail around and get eaten.

I would say his strongest "what if" would be a hulk for the same reason, But hulk has thunderclapped the likes of fin fang foom so it depends on the hulk. He could also jump out the suction and throw him into the moon like he did fin fang foom. If hulk isn't immediately sucked up and eaten he wins, Otherwise I could see chorum taking a calm hulk.

(I forgot to mention i kinda assumed this was without vehicles. If they had the motorcycle than even frank could probably get him to do the ouroboros schtick.)

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Lastman is super underrated. I like frank but some of the wren were beaten by deus ex machima. Pretty sure the chorum is out of his weight class. Also their was one who could stop time so those two are his big problem. If it weren't for them id say he clears though.

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Id take Raven and Flash over Hulk and Thor 8/10 times. Cyborg > Iron Man, Starfire > Black Widow, Unless Antman and wasp are doing the shrink into someone's brain and grow thing they also get stomped by Beast boy, Donna, Whoever. Nightwing might lose to cap and arsenal might lose to Hawkeye but those battles are non factors.

Titans 7-8/10

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Team Earthbenders drops a literal mountain on team Water. Other than blood bending I don't see team Water winning.

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On the list if its White phoenix than the top 3 are White phoenix, MJJ, MoD. Order is kind of irrelevant but MJJ apparently needs a universe to warp

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The other two weren't put in this situation so its unclear how they would fair. But the marquis of death lost after fighting his past version, an amped fantastic four and a vengeful doctor doom which is basically a multiversal threat in his own right.

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keep in mind he had just been attacked by his past self and was greatly weakened but reed said at Planck temp his powers get cancelled out. Not sure if that's only in his weakened state or not.

To my knowledge the white phoenix has never been defeated but its jean with the full powers of the phoenix. The only time I've seen a full powered phoenix actually struggle to do anything was in the new defenders run. After it fought Blue Marvel, America Chavez with the infinity mask, and Tigra's god. But it wasn't as much defeated as it was unable to complete its goal. they also kind of insinuate that this was a test but that's not really 100% proof that it was uninhibited. Post retcon beyonder was also there but did nothing because he was "Outclassed".

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So id rank them

1.Phoenix

2.MoD

3.MJJ

franklin struggled with the mad titans so he is 4th. And Matthew Malloy got deus ex machima'd by time travel so he is 5th. He never got the chance to fully use his power so he may be stronger than we were led on to believe. I also believe there are a few more mutants who belong on the list: Legion, Mr M, Santa Claus, etc.