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@rosalinagalaxy3 said:
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@rosalinagalaxy3: Nothing Wanda has done in the MCU provides any evidence she’s anywhere near the Tier of Odin. Not one.

Even if we were to use statements and context lacking feats/statements i can say that Odin admitted to Thor as his son is stronger and Wanda easier took down THanos while THor was being overpowered by Thanos. ( forgeting how Stormbreaker easily pierced through Thanos's skin while Wanda had problems ).

Or this speech was happening only inside THor's head like hallucinations

She can’t even defend vision let alone 9 realms

Ok, but how is he defending those 9 realms. THis is all off screen and context lacking.

Odin saying Thor was stronger than him wasn't literal, it was about Ragnarok and how Odin didn't have the strength of will to accept it, which is the defining trait of his reign as king, and Thor...did, which was his defining trait during his short lived reign as king.

Problem is they didn't actually explain was that conversation real like Odin's soul ( or sth ) contacted Thor or this all was happening inside Thor's head.

Odin's soul, he talks to Heimdall too apparently

Is it confirmed in guides or script ?

Oh no it was a little story. There's a deleted portion of the script you won't see online, it's the part where Heimdall runs and gets the sword before Hela arrives at the observatory, he talks to odin between that time and the time he starts cutting down zombies

Ahh so makes more sense then

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@rosalinagalaxy3: who do you think rebuilt the bifrost? He used his power and the power of the stone. It’s in the comic before dark world and I think it was implied he is weakened.

Still nothing is implied that was Odin's power. THey were rebuilding bifrost in Av Prelude and they needed power soource. Why it costed then all Odin's health to send Thor with this dark magic then. Nothing implies Odin reall could charge up. All is off screen without descriptions.

Also it may be offscreen but it is stated as fact so I’m going to take it as it is in the movie. “The most powerful being in all the nine realms”, “protector of the nine realms” “all father” (he has power over every realm in Yggdrasil), “surtur I thought my dad killed like half a million years ago” “I cannot die not until ragnarok... Odin is not on Asgard” and starts his attack soon as Odin leaves

"Ragnarok has already began" ~ Surtur at beginning of movie

Ya sure looks like he is scared of the army and the others, not even hela. He was more scared of Odin then he was all of them. Not to mention Thor was literally on his knees crying to his dad that I’m not as strong as you and to be a good dad he told him he was stronger to help him.

Where you have context then ? We don't know how Odin was doing this at all.

Don’t forget Thanos waited until old and died.

Ok can you prove it Thanos was waiting for Odin's death ( or Asgard destruction ) ?

I could assume Thanos was waiting when Ancient One will perish but nothing implies it.

Four out of six infinity stones were in his realms Under his watch

He didn't even know of any reality stone existence, he only thought it is fairy tale until he have seen it in Jane Foster's body

Asgardian didn't even realise of Kamar-Taj sorcerrers existnce "So Earth has wizards now" ~THor to Doctor Strange.

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@allfatherodin said:

@rosalinagalaxy3: Nothing Wanda has done in the MCU provides any evidence she’s anywhere near the Tier of Odin. Not one.

Even if we were to use statements and context lacking feats/statements i can say that Odin admitted to Thor as his son is stronger and Wanda easier took down THanos while THor was being overpowered by Thanos. ( forgeting how Stormbreaker easily pierced through Thanos's skin while Wanda had problems ).

Or this speech was happening only inside THor's head like hallucinations

She can’t even defend vision let alone 9 realms

Ok, but how is he defending those 9 realms. THis is all off screen and context lacking.

Odin saying Thor was stronger than him wasn't literal, it was about Ragnarok and how Odin didn't have the strength of will to accept it, which is the defining trait of his reign as king, and Thor...did, which was his defining trait during his short lived reign as king.

Problem is they didn't actually explain was that conversation real like Odin's soul ( or sth ) contacted Thor or this all was happening inside Thor's head.

Odin's soul, he talks to Heimdall too apparently

Is it confirmed in guides or script ?

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@rosalinagalaxy3 said:
@allfatherodin said:

@rosalinagalaxy3: Nothing Wanda has done in the MCU provides any evidence she’s anywhere near the Tier of Odin. Not one.

Even if we were to use statements and context lacking feats/statements i can say that Odin admitted to Thor as his son is stronger and Wanda easier took down THanos while THor was being overpowered by Thanos. ( forgeting how Stormbreaker easily pierced through Thanos's skin while Wanda had problems ).

Or this speech was happening only inside THor's head like hallucinations

She can’t even defend vision let alone 9 realms

Ok, but how is he defending those 9 realms. THis is all off screen and context lacking.

Odin saying Thor was stronger than him wasn't literal, it was about Ragnarok and how Odin didn't have the strength of will to accept it, which is the defining trait of his reign as king, and Thor...did, which was his defining trait during his short lived reign as king.

Problem is they didn't actually explain was that conversation real like Odin's soul ( or sth ) contacted Thor or this all was happening inside Thor's head.

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@rosalinagalaxy3: Ah how many Alts do you have troll

Foreveralive is that you ?

@deltahuman: I'm smoking common sense apparently z want some? Lol my dude Proxima would easily one shot Wanda

Jobbing Wnada. At least Wanda has actual own powers unlike Odin who 90% of all times behaves like human lvl being

if not Black widow hadn't saves her. She's got low durability. Only reason she's dangerous is because of TK. She's great against non Hax bricks.

Woow u discovered america

Thanos is durable but not the most durable and he has ZERO ways to fight hax. Odin does.

Ok so show his feats and details how good he is in those haxes. Des riptions, on screen feats, + proof he can do this on his own without prep time and tools

Thor used Bi Frost to deadly affect in wakanda.

Such an attack would KO Wanda easily.. Odin DOES man HAS used Bifrost himself you know..

Ok proof me he can do this on his own and revive bifrost with snap of his finger. Also Stormbreaker is said to summon bifrost, not revive it. There is no evidence Thor can just revive this bifrost.

Problem with Wants (Besides trying to take on a Skyfather in the first place), is that while she has Great Offense, She also has horrible defense.

Odin was so allmighty than even Frigga died and somehow got outsmarted by Loki aka his fosterson whom Odin should know and Loki was pretty pathethic on his own

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@redshift_bacon said:

The Endless exist in every Creation, whereas, as far as WE know, the Monitors are limited to the mainline Creation that Perpetua originally created. After all, it was this creation that sparked the event leading to Mandrakk.

U mean omnipresent across it ?

Then why they reside the dreaming aka realm existing inside dc creation ?

THis is same talk as Bruce Wayne exist in every creation in every timeline, in every Earth. So that means he is omnipresent across ot or there are mulitple versions of Batman ?

Very same talk as Dr Manhattan being omnipresent across mulitverse since he has avatars residing inside something.

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The Endless exist in every Creation, whereas, as far as WE know, the Monitors are limited to the mainline Creation that Perpetua originally created. After all, it was this creation that sparked the event leading to Mandrakk.

U mean omnipresent across it ?

Then why they reside the dreaming aka realm existing inside dc creation ?

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@xebec said:

The Monitors are observers of the DC Multiverse, meanwhile the Endless are confirmed by Lucifer to be present even in other 'creations' outside of DC in the overvoid, putting them a tier above the Monitors in terms of meta.

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

Using that scaling we can also claim that Monitor, Anti_monitor are fragments of overvoid. Overvoid >>>> fragment of overvoid>> creations located inside the overvoid

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@allfatherodin: U still need more context. Cool that Odin off screen with army and his rulling were that powerful, but we still must know is it his actual power or just super army, super tech etc.

Also we don't know how powerful civilizations has Odin's army defeated. According to ceiling painting he only slaughter civilizations as advanced as ancient greece or egypt, no offence.

Saying "most powerful being" can mean sth but also we still need more statements. ALso if we must use statements "most powerful being" we mustn't forget the fact that asgardians ( THor was suprised that Earth has any sorcerrers ) didn't even know that Kamar-Taj has magicians. Also Asgard was powerful because of exploring powers of infinity stones collection.

I know Heimdall said something of "use power of tesseract to regain flames of bifrost instead of all-father" but this implication nothing proves that Odin has actual power to restore actual teleporting power of bifrost, it could be also interpreted in way like Odin was constantly trying and failing.

Loki was failing to protect because.. let not deceive each other. Loki is simple Jackass. First scene on Asgard and Loki is more busy with creating dumb spectacles than taking care of actual stuff. Loki always was delusional guy with dumb visions.

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@rosalinagalaxy3: Most of speed comes from scaling but she's faster than most of them except flash. Lighting timing is childs play to Cheetah like absurdly so. Cheetah Flashes WW dont need lightning timing feats it's a given.

Ok but for Bayonetta lightnings are also child's play. As without remembering who she is her casuality is lightning dodging. She can casually at beginning of Bayonetta

And Cheetah hurts people above building level. I asked was she way above Dante to see where she stacks up, cause I don't see Dante stomping the JL like those above have claimed she does.

I am not saying Bayonetta would beat Superman but i think she could be possibly to herald lvl beings like SUperman, THor, average Green Lantern or Silver Surfer or Wonder Woman. But not high herald/teambuster beings like Cap Atom, Martian or Hal Jordan/John Stewart. Noithing saying she could match sb like Odin or Galactus ( i could scale Aesir and Jubileus to Odin and Galactus but too little feats )