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@cosmiccelest:

I agree with all of what you say.

1) UA although it was a huge feat of power, Rogue vs the celestial, she should not have problems with psyques als, because she controlled her power there, and was selective, and ene sa fight she decided to take only powers not als psyques that's why The heroes were all depowered, but they were not unconscious.

2) She says clearly that absorbs all the personalities at once, then decided to leave all the powers and just stay with eld and teleportation is another thing, but it is clear that she merged and absorbed all their personalities at the same time.

What happened in UA does not make sense anywhere you look, she was selective, she did not have to have the mental problems caused by psyches.

Even so if you ignore that, it is one of the greatest examples of power that a hero has ever given, I absorb the powers of all the heroes of the planet, wow.

@xelossik: Rogue only absorbed a couple of hundred power and Psyches in Uncanny avengers. Also it was never the powers that overwhelmed Rogue but the Psyches. So the argument still remains it was inconsistent writing.

Here goes the image about the Voices overwhelming her not the powers.

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During the X men legacy series she was connected to 1000's of personalities. Drawing on means using in this context.

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During Uncanny avengers she only had a couple of hundred.

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During X men she absorbed the Hetacomb and only truly went insane for a couple of seconds because she didn't get rid of the Hetacombs powers until Hope touched her and erased them. Even then it was the Hetacomb+88 Strain Virus that was messing her up.

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Even then she wasn't screaming in pain like she was in uncanny avengers and the Hetacomb had 8 billion twisted minds. And during Uncanny avengers Rogue wasn't dying from a virus. Rogue handled absorbing 8 Billion minds better then she did a couple of hundred.

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#2  Edited By rogue1812

@angel1993 said:

Well, I'm just curious to know whether Rogue can absorb animal life as well as human life like if she touched a cat or a dog. Would she gain their fur, claws etc or would she just absorb their life force?

Well as long as it is organic energy, she can, she has absorbed different races of aliens, gods, characters with powers and cosmic level, demons, and the recent exceptions ghosts, and beings in astral form without physical body.

Before she was only limited to organic beings and could not absorb characters with powers based on technologies, but in recent years her powers have increased, and many exceptions have been given, for example she has absorbed people in astral forms (without physical body ) and has absorbed powers that are based on technology, at least there have been some exceptions from this, such as the powers of Wonderman (which does not have an organic body really, but of pure energy) and the former was immune to his touch, no longer , and she absorbed the powers of the childrens of the vault, that their powers come from technology, they are not natural.

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Well she is class 100 ++ and she is invulnerable, and she proved to be in flight and reflexes, super fast.

Who has unlimited energy? is coherent, Rogue has not yet developed his power, and continues to advance, and we saw that he has never had a limit, when he absorbed the hecatomb and the 8 trillion entities was the greatest test, then in UA when he absorbed all the power of all the heroes of the planet confirms it. It is normal for Wonderman's powers to adapt better to his body, than to Wonderman himself.

And its power is still developing and increasing, and it seems unlimited.

And do not leave me with the few who have endured their touch, like Mojo, because those are only special cases in which they are immune or difficult to absorb, but they are less than 5 characters if I remember correctly.

And for example Mojo will not have more energy than Thor, or all the heroes of the planet, or a thing with 8 billion souls lol, I mean not.

One thing is to be immune to her touch or something resistant, and another that has a limit of storage, because if something shows the canon is that its capacity is unlimited.

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@xelossik said:

Rogue couldn't absorb Phoenix powers in X-men Legacy AvX Tie In because Phoenix energy is sentient.

There are strange cases where very few characters are resistant to their ticket, but still they are not immune.

But she has already contained powers of cosmic enrgia, there would be no reason why she could not, unless for some strange reason, she was resistant, but she would be a perfect container for the PF, she has already demonstrated to be able to store unlimited energy.

If I absorb the power of practically all the heroes of the planet and I stop a Celestial, that is much more than the P5 in individual, that did not seem exaggeratedly powerful.

In addition she has already been able to contain enormous cosmic powers, AK Genis Vell.

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@cosmiccelest:

Rogue in Legacy had help of Xavier and Legion.

Rogue in Legacy had troubles with Moon Knight and She Hulk.

Maybe there is more factors than number of personalities?

You need to read the issue because all Legion did was absorbed Rogue into himself(Accidentally) and Xavier did nothing for Rogue. By time Xavier got to Rogue she was already absorbing and touching on all of Legions personalities. Also you still have the 8 Billion psyches she absorbed in the early 2000's X men series. The Scene in Uncanny avengers was simply inconstant writing.

The She-Hulk and Moon night personalities she got under control a couple of seconds to minutes after absorbing them. It is like the Scene from the Early X men comic when she absorbed the Hetacomb. At first she was losing her mind hearing different thoughts but then she got them under control a couple of seconds later.

I completely agree with you, Rogue with control was increasing her powers, and she proved to separate things, she decided if she took or powers, or psyches, or just scanned thoughts (this she did when she was looking for information on the legion personality that was they escaped, and Emma and Xavier could not do this) or if they took vital force, or if they took all these characteristics at the same time, which is when they usually have problems.

Rogue also proved able to permanently remove the powers to the other, and return it when she decided to return the skill.

She duplicate powers, and many times I use them better than the original owners.

And he did many new things, like absorbing astral beings, and much more.

What happened vs the celestial, it was bad writing, Remender did not know much about the character, but in honor of the truth it gave him a bigger power show than any other Xmen did before, of Rogue she has more feats of power than the most omega mutants confirmed, and she has unlimited potential.

That she had problems with the voices was bad writing, starting because I leave the heroes depowered, but conscious, that should not happen because Rogue was selective, and she absorbed all the minds and personality of legion at the same time, and was in perfect condition, That anguish of UA, should not happen, at least not as it was written, if all the heroes were in a coma because tomos their psyches was acceptable, but being in control, it is not, that was bad writing.

And:

Rogue doing a better mental scan of the Legion mind, something Xavier and Emma could not do.

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It is only questioned before it is confirmed omega level, because potential omega she already is.

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@xelossik:

Well that's not quite true, she is very modest, and to be honest, many of the adult heroes use the same power sometimes even better than them.

And Carol, well she marvel's powers worked better and they were stronger in Rogue than they were in Carol, and in AVX regardless of Rogue's modesty, Rogue was superior to Carol, and Rogue won.

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She can use the powers of Cap Marvel equal, from which she absorbed better powers, like those of Geniss Vell, and this is in a coma.

She can make massive powers absorptions, and in control if she wants she can choose to stay or not, and decides that she takes, and her powers were increasing, obviously she is of omega level.

And to be honest she has more feats of power than many of the omega level confirmed.

Did you see how the celestial stopped? she can defeat Thor with one touch, and she has absorbed 8 billion entities.

And she has many more features of her powers that she was just developing.

@Cosmiccelest:

That's right, she in control was increasing her powers, and she uses the power better than the original users, and may contain unlimited amounts of power and entities, because that has already been seen, she clearly is of omega level.

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