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> Actually Carol was unique. She is the only one who lost memories/emotions.
i know that after the incident with Ms Marvel Rogue did her best not to absorb anyone as much as she absorbed Carol, but... was Carol actually the only one? What about Cody Robbins? Sunfire, that got absorbed while dying (not too sure if it's from Earth-616)? What about the time when Rogue was infected with Strain 88 virus that caused her to instantly kill anyone who she touched? While being infected, she absorbed 8 000 000 000 entities a nurse that accidentally touched her - if Ms Marvel got her memory lost and still survived, i doubt that a woman who was absorbed completely could still keep her memory.
> Such transfers lasted for 60 times longer than the contact time, with extended contact resulting in the possibility of permanent absorption.
> She should be able to use his powers for many years. (because of this 8 month time skip)
thank you, but... i'm still kinda confused. These 8 months were months that she obtained his powers. She did not absorb him for 8 months straight. So how exactly do these 8 months grant her his powers for many years?..
also, if he is only an energy being, how can Rogue... absorb him? I thought she could only absorb living beings that have body?
sorry if that all sounds stupid - i'm not very educated in Marvel Comics, didn't read every single issue starring Rogue, and i know even less about Simon and how he works.
I think they're confused.
In the cases that Rogue absorbed someone permanently, it was permanent, only clean of the staff of power, by means, far-fetched and external, not because "she spent the power" because it was not so, the power was permanently printed in her DNA .
The powers of Wonderman, are permanent and will be part of it forever, unless they create a story where she for some external cause loses the template of power, not that she will lose them by use, because it is not like that, It is not how your powers work.
They also take into account the following cases.
1) Rogue with control of his powers, could permanently remove the power to another person, without needing to absorb the psyche, she did this several times in XML, and only renounced the power when she wanted.
She threatened Hellion to leave him depowered.
And when she absorbed Wonderman, she did not have a prolonged contact, she only had a contact of a couple of seconds to absorb ALL THE POWER, from Wonderman Hulk Cap Marvel (Carol), Hyperion and all the heroes of the planet.
2) In AOA She took out half of Polaris' power, and she held those powers for many years, without wearing them down, literally until she died in X-Force.
3) In X-Men The End, written by Claremont, the creator of Rogue, Rogue died to the full potential of all his powers, had the control of the absorption, she could channel powers absorbed in the past, and had permanently the flying brick powerset.
4) In the futuristic story with the great-great-grandson of Dr. Strange, BetaBR and Rogue, hundreds of years had passed, and Rogue obviously had the power of Wonderman permanent, and mentioned that he had the gift of Wolverine's power, this may be because he also absorbed to Logan permanently, that I do not believe, or rather that he learned to channel the powers absorbed in the past, something logistical, and as it is a futuristic story we see a Rogue in full control of his powers and developed potential.
5) There is a Rogue that appeared a couple of times in 616, because it was a kind of Angel of Death, traveling through dimensions and offering to dying mutants, letting them die, or offering them to permanently absorb their powers and their memories, and thus live forever through Rogue.
But Rogue never lost a permanent power, for using it a lot, or for the passage of time, that is a lie, and totally false, the only times that Rogue lost the absorbed permanent powers, were due to unexplained or special causes.
But in general, when Rogue absorbs a permanent power, is part of it, in theory forever, and does not suffer from wear, since she has all that potential as part of it.
She should divide herself:D
Rogue should return to X men (human body + 1% of Wonder Man powers)
Rogue as energy being should stay with Avengers:D (99% of Wonder Man powers)
when wonder man died he became energy being
she should have near death experience:D
Rogue has permanently the powers of WM, which makes it stronger than the original Marvel Ms, or the current Cap Marvel. It does not have to absorb anyone else, it's already very powerful, you should only have control over your powers of Absorption.
And good to develop the other powers of Wm that she has still asleep.
She should steal Hope powers so that she can be the most powerful stealing/copying mutant.
She really proved that she was much more powerful than Hope.
Rogue is better with copied powers, and may have multiple powers once, when in control, Rogue with a few collapses.
Besides, Hope is just a simple imitator, Rogue does a lot more than that. and XML is the test.
Rogue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope.
Another thing, Rogue when she has control of her powers has no problems with psyches, because she was simply selective, she chose to absorb.
Rogue, even without control has more control than Cyke, of hehco when Rogue absorbed Cyke's pedestals if she controlled them, Scott is useless in control, he has NOTHING of control over his powers.
Rogue only occasionally is overwhelmed by personalities, but the powers she absorbs always controls them well, many times better than the original owners.
When Rogue was (and will be at some point again) in control, he had more control than any other mutant with his powers, and he did it in record time, again Scott does not control his powers at all.
In Xtreme X men Sage jump started her powers this allowed her to freely permanently use everyone's powers at the sametime when ever she wanted too.
do you think she will she ever come back to that level of power?
I am completely sure that we will ever see her do that again.
that is a natural characteristic of his pedophiles, so to speak his power fully developed.
Besides, she did this before Sage gave her that advance.
So the answer is yes, at some point we will see it again.
I agree that Selene is a powerful character and far more superior than her counterpart in the Inner Circle. She can wipe out a lot of X-Men team if she wanted too but of course I do not believe that she can defeat them without hurting herself.
Could defeat her.
as for this list... I do not believe the following mutants can defeat her single handedly
EMMA FROST... I see her the first one to go in this list if it will be one on one even with her diamond form, Selene can manipulate her environment plus magic to destroy her.
Psylocke...As much I love Psylocke, I do not see her winning over the Black Queen Selene. Selene's power is not limited to psychic attacks. But knowing Psylocke, she wouldn't mind giving Selene a run for her life.
Rogue can also defeat her, much more now.
Selene does not seem so powerful to me, she's terribly overrated, and she does not really have any great power deeds.
See it now in the comic of Cable, has done nothing but make the ridiculous, and be defeated by all.
Any super strong of good level could annihilate without much effort to Selene.
@homosexuality: No Rogue doesn't do it the same way Selene does, Rogue absorbs there life force temporarily and gains there memory's and powers, selene litrally feeds on them and drains of the lifeforce like a vampire and retains there memories also but tottally different in style since selene remembers her victims forever!
Nothing is temporarily as it seems with the absorption of Rogue, she clones the dns and the power template of those she touches.
And it has been said in many subjects that she keeps that energy, only that she has not learned to take advantage of it.
Rogue absorbs the same as selene and much more, selene only vital force.
In addition there are several possible futures topics and in all Rogue still looks young.
On the other hand the eternal youth of selene is only illusory, if it does not consume vital force it is constantly vulve old almost like a mummy and could die.