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@RockyRaccoon37: @RockyRaccoon37 said:
@jphulk26 said:
@Babs said:
BA: Well, I wouldn't say it's paternal, but I think as we established in issue #0 she has feelings for him as her mentor.
CV: What inspired you to make Ares this male figure in Diana's life? And did you feel she needed to be influenced by him?
BA: I didn't think she needed to be influenced...Well, she's a warrior and I thought maybe War should train the warrior. But I thought that the character War needed a fresh approach just so he wasn't so....moustache-twirling evil, because he's always sort of been portrayed that way before. And going back to the myth we're pulling this out of, he [War] was worshipped. I mean, War wasn't always a bad thing and that's something I wanted to play with in relation to that character. You know, there was glory in war.
To Azzerrelo: Ok, what an innovative move man, jesus this man is a genius. War is not inherently evil; man I have never heard such a notion. That´s some real deep insight man, real deep. Yeah that Ares was soooooo stereotypical before, in all the Wonder Woman comics you´ve never read. Totally man; or was he this little thing that is often refered to in literary circles... what it is it called again? starts with a V, oh yes thats right, he was villain. And like all villains, they tend to like doing a bit of mustache-twiddling; its your job, to come up with a story that makes that mustache twiddling cool, you pathetic, patronising moron. Please god I´m begging you, not two more years of this guy, he´s like a cult leader. He even looks like one. WARNING: Don´t drink the cool-aid.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh but for serious, you have issues. Did Azaarello push you down a flight of stairs or something?
"HEY GUYS DON'T LIKE THIS THING YOU LIKE, LIKE WHAT I LIKE INSTEAD CAUSE IF YOU DON'T IT'S LIKE YOU'RE IN A CULT, BUT IT'S TOTALLY NOT A CULT IF YOU AGREE WITH ME AND ONLY ME".
His job as a comic book writer is to write interesting stories that find an audience, not to cater specifically to your wants and desires.
I didn´t mean the comic, I meant his stupid statement, and the continued spurious lies he propagates about former runs of Wonder Woman. He doesn´t need to put down former runs to elevate his own. If people like his run I don´t mind, I just hate nearly everything he says about Wonder Woman, and the fact that I have to be subjected for another two years to this nonsense just makes me feel a bit nauseous. Sorry for the mixup.
As for your last statement, its nothing to do with catering to my tastes, as I understand it Superheroes tend to have villains. Adventure stories have protaganist and antagonist, thats not me talking about my particular tastes thats me talking about the structure of storytelling. In any case, I was addressing the fact that if he thought Ares was to simplistic a villain, why didn´t he deepen or expand his motivation or plan? Rather than instead making him a one-dimensional stereotypical mentor. And from the guy who has ripped off nearly every story of demigods existing since 1200 BC, I wouldn´t be talking about originality if I was him.
Heads-up: you don't have to be subjected to this, you can opt not to read the book.
I don't really see War as one dimensional or stereotypical at all-- his morality is often steeped in shades of grey, much like war itself. War is a masculine figure, and as a mentor, taught Wonder Woman how to fight, survive and tried to instill the nature of warfare which is that one must be capable of killing without remorse. Wonder Woman denies that need for a lack of emotion, but still adopts the more masculine modes of violence-- in that way she maintains a specific element of femininity and humanity.
War plays a significant role in shaping this progressive character of Wonder Woman. Not to mention that what one expects out of his character is totally subverted as he avoids the conflict over the throne of Olympus. Surely something not expected from a god of war.
He's not the one-note character you make him out to be at all, and plays one of the most significant roles in the story.
And to your point about antagonists: what makes a villain interesting is when they are not evil for the sake of being evil. What makes this book so exciting is that the villains and heroes are often interchanged repeatedly. Hera began as the central antagonist, but now she's part of the team and a sympathetic, entertaining figure; Hermes was seemingly a meek ally, but now has been turned into a potential villain himself (although we still don't know the full extent of his motivations).
You don't have to like the book, but you're misrepresenting it so much and spew so much anger towards Azzarello, it seems as though you wouldn't have been happy with any changes to the Wonder Woman mythos.
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