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The power levels of the Marvels are far beyond Kryptonians, I told y'all a Phase or two ago with Feige talking about Carol being able to fly through the Sun and punch away moons.

And 'lo

  • there was that storyboard of them catching Aladna's moon
  • there was the Quantum Bands creating a negative mass black hole, tearing the boundaries between MCU and FOX
  • there was Photon using their combined power to prevent universal destruction
  • there was that Ms Marvel statement about interdimensional travel requiring base energy of the Sun
  • there was Quantum Bands draining Earth's Sun in order to save Hala's
  • there was Captain Marvel coring a star, displacing many planets worth of mass
  • there was Captain Marvel enduring the implosion of that star (unto supernova)
  • there was Captain Marvel heating that star millions of degrees which restarts its nuclear fusion reaction

This ^

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@rjr: can you make an argument for anyone on team DCEU beating someone who can survive falling into a large black hole and with various haxes that they have no counter for?

Reminder, "B-but he's Superman!!!" and "Those feats don't count because they're not in line with where I feel he should scale" aren't valid arguments.

Dude just the kryptonians and Snyder confirming that they weren't killed going into a black hole is confirmation enough and those haxes won't do anything if superman just tackles him before loki can even process a thought. I would have understand if you used GOS loki but you used 1st movie loki who only fought as fast as a super soldier something that superman alone trumps. 1st movie loki is not big as your making him out to be, if he had such great hax abilities and was quick on it enough he would have used them on hulk in avengers 1, loki in characters likes to brag than act supes on the other hand tends to bullrush than ask questions later.

So they are around the same level of durability, except Loki has weapons that can harm or potentially oneshot people more durable than him (Thor) such as his daggers or Gungnir. Can go invisible, bypass durability by turning them into frogs (as he is mentioned to have done in Ragnarok as a child), and create illusions. Also speedwise, he's faster than Thor who could react to the Destroyer's lightspeed beams. Lightspeed stuff in DCEU is heavily contradictory to say the least.

In-character Superman let randos whose power levels he had no awareness of like Cyborg or Steppenwolf hit him. In-character Loki is prone to manipulating opponents when he's not having a mental breakdown from plot related stuff as he did against Hulk.

Dude if that's lightspeed than so is doomsday since its described as a beam of light, so If were going down that road than that means batman can dodge the destroyers beam since he dodged doomsdays lasers and since supes is far faster than batman so can supes, also lightspeed stuff is also heavily contradictory in the MCU as well it's not just exclusive to dceu, I mean aristeaus alone was able to debunk ParkerKents lightspeed thread. Loki is also prone for overlong speeches before attacking and that alone makes him vulnerable to supes who is known for bullrushing first ask questions later and even a playful supes was to dodge an incoming attack from steppenwolf who scales to diana who is a lightning timer and loki has never shown to strike with such speed since even Steve Rodgers was able to react to his strikes and dodge them so really he is not hitting supes.

Also why are we discussing this here this ain't a thread about them?

Those are all valid lightspeed feats, you just have to prove consistency. DCEU is heavily contradictory since any feat where Superman blitzes a character you wanna argue is lightspeed from heat vision or whatever would imply he's FTL, but The Flash shows that going FTL damages the multiverse and that even Flash, explicitly never going lightspeed, statues everyone except Superman, who he perceives as moving in slow motion while back peddling and stumbling. MCU just has your bog-standard consistency issues since they get tagged by bullets, then dodge lightning, then bullets, then block light, etc. Relativistic feats in the MCU don't quite break the rules of the verse like they do in the DCEU.

As for why we're having this discussion, I simply got annoyed at people thinking the star feat makes or break Carol against Kryptonians.

Look I get what your trying to say but for now 'm leaving for offshore work in a couple hours so for now I'm gonna leave this here for later and we can discuss this further when I get back to shore or when the topic is brought up again in the right page.

Also the star feat is legit and Carol is above supes and kryptonians, anyone saying otherwise I consider trolling or lowballing

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#3  Edited By RJR
@kryptonianking88 said:
@rjr said:
@kryptonianking88 said:

@rjr: can you make an argument for anyone on team DCEU beating someone who can survive falling into a large black hole and with various haxes that they have no counter for?

Reminder, "B-but he's Superman!!!" and "Those feats don't count because they're not in line with where I feel he should scale" aren't valid arguments.

Dude just the kryptonians and Snyder confirming that they weren't killed going into a black hole is confirmation enough and those haxes won't do anything if superman just tackles him before loki can even process a thought. I would have understand if you used GOS loki but you used 1st movie loki who only fought as fast as a super soldier something that superman alone trumps. 1st movie loki is not big as your making him out to be, if he had such great hax abilities and was quick on it enough he would have used them on hulk in avengers 1, loki in characters likes to brag than act supes on the other hand tends to bullrush than ask questions later.

So they are around the same level of durability, except Loki has weapons that can harm or potentially oneshot people more durable than him (Thor) such as his daggers or Gungnir. Can go invisible, bypass durability by turning them into frogs (as he is mentioned to have done in Ragnarok as a child), and create illusions. Also speedwise, he's faster than Thor who could react to the Destroyer's lightspeed beams. Lightspeed stuff in DCEU is heavily contradictory to say the least.

In-character Superman let randos whose power levels he had no awareness of like Cyborg or Steppenwolf hit him. In-character Loki is prone to manipulating opponents when he's not having a mental breakdown from plot related stuff as he did against Hulk.

Dude if that's lightspeed than so is doomsday since its described as a beam of light, so If were going down that road than that means batman can dodge the destroyers beam since he dodged doomsdays lasers and since supes is far faster than batman so can supes, also lightspeed stuff is also heavily contradictory in the MCU as well it's not just exclusive to dceu, I mean aristeaus alone was able to debunk ParkerKents lightspeed thread. Loki is also prone for overlong speeches before attacking and that alone makes him vulnerable to supes who is known for bullrushing first ask questions later and even a playful supes was to dodge an incoming attack from steppenwolf who scales to diana who is a lightning timer and loki has never shown to strike with such speed since even Steve Rodgers was able to react to his strikes and dodge them so really he is not hitting supes.

Also why are we discussing this here this ain't a thread about them?

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@warstars1977 said:

Haha. I’m beginning to see who favors which verse on this site.

Fr. People hate on Wonder Woman so bad on this site.

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Bluddy nitpicking out of context as usual,Typical Feig Siblings.

That's a good one

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The entire planet is 75% water you do the math of how we'll fair lol

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They couldn't take down Adam, so the Clark takes this

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Literal MCU wankers really trying to put a super soldier above a high tier like doomsday lol.

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Cap is way more below diana in durability this will either severely injure or kill him lol I mean the dude was knocked for three minutes just by a grenade launcher doing this to him

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The one that went up against what was described as beam of light, now are we done trolling?