Rheged

Wasn't as keen on Jim Hammond being the focus, but James Robinson won me over. And the art was lovely! Fun read with the right mix of action and introspection, plus loved the flashback!

Agreed, but I can't wait for trade. Love the Invaders also, and this first issue was good!

I've been gone for a few months and everything is changed. What the heck happened to the galleries? Where's the folders? It's impossible to find anything in the Marvel galleries when it's all lumped into one generic Earth 616 folder. And can we not delete images from galleries anymore? I couldn't find a delete key. :(

Also, Xerox Kitties Guide to Galleries link is broken in first post.

Cool video, @novi_homines , thanks for posting it. He left a few things out but it seems mostly right. I had no idea that Aquaman could swim that fast. I know Namor is pretty fast, as he's made whirlpools and can make himself into a human drill, but apparently Aquaman is twice as fast.

NP. A lot of people forget, that Namor was Timely's answer to Superman. Until Marvel created the Hulk, he was their undisputed strongest character.

@battle_forum_junkie said:

@rheged:

No, I'm pretty sure Aquaman is stronger.

Some scans of Namor doing stuff more impressive then this might sway me though.

like stopping a ship from crashing into the shore in a massive storm at what looks like around 17.

You mean a yacht. Storms make Namor stronger.

And pulling a huge fishing boat through another massive sea storm.

Fishing boats aren't huge, and it looks like a tug boat.

Or, lifting up a cruise ship which weigh anywhere from 30,000 tons to 220,000 tons.

Actually he might be just tipping it but that's still a pretty impressive feat.

Tipping a cruise boat as opposed to LIFTING filled oil tankers and destroyers? Or an island, like Utopia?

Yes, the way Aquaman has been for 65+ years, NOT the way he's been for what, a year and a half, in a rebooted universe. And even then, he's still hasn't proven as strong as Namor, who regularly fights the heavyweights of Marvel like the Hulk.

Here's a feat list for Namor someone made with scans:

The_Feat_List_of_the_Sub-Mariner

LOL! No.

Namor is far stronger physically and he can fly. Only Aquaman's telepathic abilities with sea life are stronger than Namor's.

Heh ... water hand. ;p

An upgrade would be cool, like hydrokinesis, but I think from the newest solicitations, there's a specific reason why Magik is the only one that got an upgrade.

If it's his mutant powers, it should be his strength and flight. No idea on some of his lesser used powers like electric eel mimicry -- though that and sea life empathy seem more connected to his Atlantean heritage. Ditto his ability to channel all the magic of Atlantis.

Of course, this appears to be a moot question, as Bendis doesn't appear to be using Namor in the X-books, and Hickman seems to have no interest in Namor's mutant abilities or anything Bendis did to them.

Interesting point. I haven't read Onslaught so I'm unfamiliar with this. But this looks like one for Tom B's formspring ... or a No-Prize. ;p

@KnightRise said:

More mainstream exposure. The 70s featured him regularly on the Super Friends(meaning multiple age groups recognize him), and pop culture refers to him for the butt of jokes. Namor and Aquaman were first published, what, a few months apart? Yet Aquaman is much more iconic. Although the general perception of "the useless hero who talks to fish" may be totally wrong, someone who has never read a comic in their life will lean toward Aquaman before Spock in a scaly-speedo. Translate that to actual comic fans: I think people respond the same way due to more prior experience.

Plus, Namor is kind of a d*ck.

Actually, try a few YEARS. Namor's first appearance was in 1939, before Batman. IIRC, Aquaman appeared in 1942 or 1941.

@BlackWind said:

Namor's personality probably wasn't something networks would want to expose younger audiences to. While Aquaman may be wrongly viewed as a joke character, he was featured in a superhero cartoon a lot of people grew up with. Aquaman was one of the big 7, so he stayed remembered, but Namor was fighting Hulk, trying to drown NYC, doing his own thing, hitting on Sue, and just all over the place.

Actually, Namor had a cartoon before Aquaman, also, back in 1966 as part of the Marvel Superhero Hour rotation.

Namor's not 'just all over the place." He's just more complicated than Aquaman's standard do gooder.

This question presupposes that Aquaman IS more popular.

@Gambit1024 said:

Because he's been featured semi-extensively in other media, whereas Namor hasn't.

Pretty much this, especially with Superfriends. Aquaman is / has gotten a huge push from DC of late.

The rest of these "reasons" are clearly subjective and biased.