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Eternity is now Infinity's successor, so they are pretty much on equal level. Eternity is the current "de facto" abstract. IMO He is a necessary being because he is the multiverse itself, and without him the other abstract cease to exist as well

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Sorry I think I've said it wrong for Logic 1. It is simply false logic for character A to automatically beat character C due to character B. What power scaling is is that if Character A beat a planet buster, then character A is at least a planet buster.

This is not without its flaws considering you can link from one to another to one outlier from one character, and suddenly any character can be wanked

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We don't know much about other Gods of Destruction, but Beerus is at least universe level without a doubt. Anyone who argue otherwise has never seen DBS.

Champa is probably universe level as well given that Beerus might be higher than that.

Sidra is a relatively weak GoD given that they are second last in mortal ranking, and that his kaioshin doesnt respect him like how universe 7 works. Universe 7 is last only because Beerus was arrogant and lazy, this is emphasised multiple times in the show. Sidra's hakai (made to destroy Goku Blue KK after Zen Exhibition) was controlled by Golden Frieza, and even base goku can resist it for an arguably long time, which is vastly unlike how Beerus trumps his victims.

So for now, the best we can do is to assume that the other GoDs are between Sidra and Beerus (perhaps with the exception of LORD GEENE HIMSELF)

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Well he did make Bleach one of THE "Big 3" of Shonen Jump almost single handedly.

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When people say limitless, usually it meant that their power is limitless. This means that whatever ability they have, they are able to use it to any extent. Thus this is slightly different from omnipotence, whereby the user can use any ability to any extend.

The common opinion is that Superman does not have limitless power, but limitless potential. Potential is any level that, in some way, possible to be achieved. Most operates at less than their full potential throughout their livespan, Superman included.

SP1M is an alternate future in which he is from the same universe, but different timeline. Therefore he can be considered the closest thing to Superman full potential, and even he has clear limitations.

The strongest canon Superman to date would be Silver Age Superman, who has ridiculous powers and depicted as seemingly limitless. However, saying that he has no limits is clearly a no limit fallacy.

Other versions of Superman such as the cartoon versions needs no debunking. They are clearly limited.

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#6  Edited By Revold

Well Thanos has recently defeated versions of himself that is as powerful as Eternity or something. I guess feats isn't as realiable as you thought eh. Though by scaling:

Reality Warpers: Multi Supercluster to Universe

Celestials, Aspirants, Many Angled Ones: Multi galaxy to Supercluster

Galactus, Stranger and low end abstracts: Galaxy to Multi Galaxy (full Galactus)

Skyfathers, Pheonix Force, Mikaboshi etc: Multi Star System to Galaxy (Odin at prime)

Thanos, Adam Warlock, top level mutants: Star System to Multi Star System

Heralds, Sentry etc: Multi Star to Star System

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#8  Edited By Revold

Ribrianne > Perfect Cell >= Super Ribrianne > Super Perfect Cell

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@rbt said:
@warlockmage said:
@rbt said:

HOTU makes this unfair.

@watcher5000 said:

These matches are so stupid, with the Infinity gauntlet alone Thanos could own 100 Alien X's.

No.

yes

Thanos can beat hundreds of multiversal beings at same time with IG? Based on what?

feats of Alien X actually being multiversal... also the casual stompage of Eternity (who has multiversal feats) would be a good place to start, and we can go from there.

HoTU is non-canon, so it doesn't count.

IG only work in its own universe, so it depends on context.

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A better topic would be Post-Crisis vs God of Strength Superman (Apokolips amped New 52)