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Kind of a dumb fight, Sly Cooper has a level of toon force that should put him above most human characters.

Sly Cooper doesn't have toon force.

You probably don't understand what toon force is or how it works. Dumbass

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Hawkeye, probably with ease. I've been reading up on The Dark Tower and Roland is overrated on this site, he hasn't done anything that comic marksman like Hawkeye couldn't replicate 10x

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Kind of a dumb fight, Sly Cooper has a level of toon force that should put him above most human characters.

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@thegrayghost: You realize that if Batman simply held his fist up the bullet would of blown right though his glove right? The greave part of Batman's glove, where the blades are, that's bullet proof, the hand part where his fist is isn't bullet proof. He knocked the bullet off trajectory.

The second scan with Batman blocking the automatic, I don't think you understand how spread on an automatic works. If Batman was holding his arm in a stationary position the spread would been too wide and he would of been shot in the face.

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You can tell by the position of Batman's cape that he dodged after the Uzi was fired.

You say there's things that Daredevil has done that Batman hasn't? There's a lot more that Batman has done that Matt hasn't. Batman dodged a lightning bolt in Power Girl #27, Batman has vanished in front of light speeds like Jay Garrick. Batman has vanished in front of Captain Atom and Superman at the same time. Batman has one shotted giant armored robots. Batman has better stealth feats, better striking feats, better skill feats, a better track record against top tier martial artist than Daredevil does.

No offense but your Daredevil fanboyism is out of control, especially if you think he can beat Slade or Wolverine. But the fact that you think Slade is only peak human is proof that I shouldn't waste anymore time with you.

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If they're fighting long distance, Deadshot can avoid most of Gambit's projectiles. His reaction is practically superhuman, Gambit's projectiles are easier to dodge since their more visible, slower than bullets, and Gambit isn't capable of performing trick shots like Deadshot can.

Gambit has shown bullet timing reaction speed but he's going to have a much harder time avoiding Deadshot's projectiles than vice verse

I give it to Deadshot 7/10. Gambit can possible close the distance and charge up Deadshot's equipment. Deadshot's armor will probably protect him but his weaponry might be too damaged to continue the fight.

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@jonny_anonymous: Agreed. I have always found Batman's detective skills don't quite live up to the hype. Unless he's playing the detective in a non-detective story.

Read Batman RIP or the Black Mirror, those stories, and most written by Grant Morrison and Scott Snyder in general, have insane detective feats for Batman and Dick Grayson.

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@masterdetective: you pretty much only mentioned comics by Loeb. Plus the non canon animated stuff. I take it you haven't read a good enough variety of Batman material.

Exactly, you need to read Scott Snyder's and Grant Morrison's material. They usually have Batman make Sherlock Holmes look like he has down syndrome.

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They made Slade look like a complete b*tch in this movie :(

still better than anything Marvel has to offer, but DC really needs to lay off Bats for a bit.

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@alexander505 said:

Yes, Batman in his universe, is the best detective in the world, but if we take the all comics and books existing, we'll see that him isn't so smart as the DC claims. Indeed, Sherlock Holmes, Conan Edogawa, Diabolik and his nemesis Ginko, are so far better than Batman, that he disappears if put alongside these characters.

lol Conan isn't on the same planet as Bruce, I've read almost the entire series and seen most of the anime, even Nightwing is better than Conan is.

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Love Case Closed, but Conan isn't in the same ballpark as Dick let alone Bruce.

Doyle's Sherlock Holmes has slightly better deductive reasoning but he lacks the expertise in multiple fields that Bruce has making Bruce the better detective.

Not sure who the last 2 guys are. But they better be a lot better than Conan is they're going to be comparable.

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Go read Batman RIP or Return of Bruce Wayne, those feats pretty much trump the feats of any other detective.

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Myth, many Batman "fans" hate any concept and idea of Batman not being the best at everything, the fact he needs help and cant do everything by itself.

People has little no idea of all the history os Batman, they know the Myth of Batman, but they dont know Batman for who he is and he was.

Nolan Batman gets hate based on the concept Batman being the best at everything, besides the really not so popular getting back to the pulp comic book origins of Batman.

People hates Lucius Fox make his gadgets and hated thet Harold Allnut did the same, also that scientist in TAS did this too, because it means he isnt the biggest mind in the world, even when is obvious Lex Luthor mind is superior to Batman, they just decide to ignore Luthor and any other person that could outsmart Batman.

Hate the concept Ras Al Ghul can kick his ass, so do Bane, even when in fact they had done this, not to mention Deathstroke, Lady Shiva and others that can kick his ass.

Not being the best "detective", like everybody knows, a detective need clues, not Batman, he can find things with his detective powers oh sorry i mean "skills".

Sorry but The Question and Elogated Man are better detectives, i mean Elogated Man is seen to be as good as Batman, but he follow another line of logic.

He could be the third place, but not the number 1.

But then there are people on the opposite of the spectrum who are equally ignorant and have no idea how Batman operates.

For one, they don't ignore Lex Luthor, they've been in several story lines together and Batman Confidential had a storyline where Bruce and Lex were matching wits. Which Bruce won BTW. Lex Luthor is smarter overall, probably by a considerable margin though.

Lucius Fox hasn't been relevant in decades, at the very best he may mass produce some of Batman's equipment like Baterangs. You act like he makes all of Batman's tech which is nonsense. The only thing Fox does now adays is run Wayne Enterprise and produces is stadard equipment.

Batman's most advanced tech, the Insider Suit, the Brother Eye, the Slider Tech that the JLA, the tech he used to take down the JLA. Lucius Fox and Harold Allnut had nothing to do with these. Also Harold Allnut hasn't been relevant since the Hush storyline, and the only thing he did in that story was die.

The only time Ra's has ever kicked Batman's ass in a fight was when he was fresh out of the Lazurus pit, every other time Bruce ends up steam rolling him.

The only time Bane has beaten Batman was Batman was already exhausted and Bane ambushed him. The other times they fought,. in No Man's Land and in Legacy, Bruce won those fights.

Contrary to popular belief Lady Shiva has never beaten Batman in a legitimate fight either. In Death in the Family they fought to a stalemate, and in Nightwing 0 she hit him with a poison dart. By this logic Cheshire has beaten Shiva because she's done the exact thing to her.

There are people who overhype Batman just like there's people who overhype every other character. Batman just gets the most flak because he's the most popular comic character in the world, but a lot of the hype he gets is justified. It's just the people who think he can beat Galactus with prep that take it too far.

I'm not sure about Elongated Man but it's pretty much been confirmed that Batman is a better detective than the Question is.