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@mattyboi: Technically, Yes, that how it works, I just think Potency comes into effect. Ie: Madara using a random, basic genjutsu >> Chunin Exam Sasuke genjutsu

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#2  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

I wanted to find out how powerful this duo would be individually, by finding out how strong they are working together at their peak shown powers. Therefor, I decided the best way to do this would be with a gauntlet.

Indra and Ashura (Prime):

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Round One: War Arc Obito (W/ Jinchuriki) and War Arc Kakashi:

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Round Two: EMS Madara & Hashirama (Alive):

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Round Three: Juubito (Full Control):

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Round Four: Rinnegan Sasuke (War-Arc):

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Round Five: Momoshiki (Fused):

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Rules:

-Fight Takes place in the Valley of the End

-All Opponents have In-Universe Knowledge of Jutsu/Powers/Lore

-Perfect Teamwork for all Duos

-Duo is fully healed and stuff between fights

-Fighters start 200 Meters Apart

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@mattyboi: I disagree with your assessment of KS.

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#4  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

@mattyboi: I wont argue a Genjutsu/Illusionary argument because frankly, the two operate in completely different ways on completely different levels. I dont believe that anybody who cannot simply break Tsukuyomi can resist KS, and I dont believe regular MS can break Tsukuyomi, therefor I dont believe anybody sub Madara-level Genjutsu can break out of it in Narutoverse, bar Rinnegan users or Jinchurikis for obvious reasons.

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#5  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

Amaterasu GG

Genjutsu GG

Chibaku Tensei GG

Various other Rinnegan Hax GG

Evasion+Time Limit GG

Sasuke has so many ways to win without even getting into a debate of Physicals (Which I believe Sasuke is Relative in anyways) that its not even funny.

Sasuke wins in a Mismatch, Gai is an overrated Brick, and its Implied that Base SO6P Naruto is above him via ACTUALLY blitzing Madara. He required Kamui’s help to attack and Flying Raijin to survive a toying and purposefully jobbing Madara.

I doubt Gai would be able to defeat Juubito even.

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#6  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

Probably the Trinity in a really hard fight, but Herald Thor can take rounds with Godwave or if he takes out one of the Trinity quickly.

Definitely not a mismatch, both sides have fought and “defeated” Universal+ Enemies.

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Void wins. J’onns TP will just get him in more trouble, Intangibility neg’s physical attacks, matter manipulation (greater than Molecule Mans) negs The Flash, and I cant think of anything else that could work.

Bad matchup for the Justice League, but they definitely make Void work for it.

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@mattyboi: Kakashi beats CURRENT Aizen!? As in, the one who is merged with his Zanpakto and can cast without needing to draw his sword? Lol, no. Not unless youre going to try to make an argument for Genjutsu Resistance being a direct translation, and even then its not a good argument because Tsukuyomi was able to bypass Kakashi’s Sharingan no problem, and DMS Kakashi has no genjutsu resistance feats.

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Raiden stomps R1

Vader narrowly wins R2. His Lightsaber would cut through Raidens Saber and Armor with the swiftness, and Vader is the superior swordsman due to Force precog and relative combat speed. Raiden is Faster (Movement speed), more agile, and Stronger, but its not enough to overcome Vaders hax with TK and various other powers.

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#10  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

lol, Madara doesnt need Rinnegan to match this version of Hashi. Hashirama actually removes the 9-Tails from Madaras arsenal rather quickly due to Wood Style, then EMS Madara and Sage Mode Hashirama go on to battle to the death until an exhausted Madara who cannot even activate his Base Sharingan gets tricked by Hashirama’s wood clone.

EMS Madara = Hashirama, the 9-Tails main purpose was to draw out a good bit of Hashirama’s Chakra before Madara began fighting him alone. Giving Madara the Rinnegan allows him to Neg any of Hashiramas attacks and gives him access to Self-Healing and Chakra Absorption to extend his fighting Time. Madara wins this fight every time, albeit with difficulty.