Redshift_Bacon

Usually, Its considered Immeasurable, since Speed is a function of Distance/Time, and you are able to essentially choose a value for Time.

Being 4D just means you are able to move in the 4th Dimension, aka Time. It doesnt necessarily mean you are able to have unrestricted movement in the 3rd dimension. I.e: We can move in 3d, but it still dont have Infinite or Unrestricted movement in any 2D “direction.” So in that sense, you can’t say a 4 Dimensional being has “infinite” speed or “MFTL” because they dont actually Have speed.

Could go either way. Minato has no knowledge of Totsuska Blade or Yata Mirror, which makes the fight difficult for him to say the least.

Oof. Im gonna agree with EmmaFrost on this one. Maul can incap one of them and win, or he’d get overwhelmed in sabers.

I think Minato could defeat any of the Sannin individually with relative ease, but once youre talking about all 3, with perfect teamwork.. it makes blitzing an opponent much more difficult.

@supremegeneration: In canon, Luke doesnt have a specific lightsaber form. Based on a small amount of formal training with Obi Wan, and dueling experience with Vader, we can assume he uses some variation or hybrid of Soresu and Djem So/Makashi. He collects an enormous amount of knowledge from before the Purge later in his life, where he probably eventually mastered all lightsaber forms.

@w4nkdestroyer: Sidious smiles and laughs more than once, then feigns being tired to bait Maul into attacking him without Savage (something Maul wouldnt be stupid enough to do without being baited) So yes, Sidious was in control of the entire fight.

Rebels Vader can take rounds against Sidious, but those rounds also leave him permanently disabled most likely. Even if you get a character like SoD Maul on his team, its not really going to change the fact that Rebels Vader and SoD Maul would be in an incredibly difficult fight against Sidious, so its a High Diff fight.

Jinn is definitely a weak link here, but, IMO, Hes not SO weak a link as to where he gets fodderized by SoD Maul or Vader. First, I dont think that SoD Maul is >> TPM Maul. Definitely stronger, but its not so massive a difference that Jinn gets completely slaughtered. Also, Vader is a slow and methodical fighter, so Jinn isnt going down quickly to him, either. Jinn is competent enough that even stalling for 30 seconds to a minute COULD be enough for Sidious to kill or incap his opponent.

My argument is that the Mandalore duo had absolutely no chance against Sidious at all, and that even if you replace Savage with an appropriately competent fighter, that doesnt mean its a stomp for the duo. They probably win, but they are in a fight for their lives against an opponent who, if luck decides, could kill them at any moment.

Phantaminum is featless, and the characters he killed were featless. We can assume there were High Rankers there, but its impossible to say how strong the High Rankers were.

Anyways, if we go by Author statements, Phantaminum is an Axis. In other words, he a literal walking Author to a story. So yea, he absolutely slaughters anybody here since he can rewrite his own death or cause enemies to die without actually attacking them. Its essentially a mid or mid-high tier Umineko character lol.

@windshieldwiper: I agree. The team alone is mostly useless, except for Immortal and Red Rush. Red Rush drew blood from Omni Man, so did Immortal. Immortal being cut by regular metal I find pretty unlikely, his durability is a lot less than Omni Man, but hes above bullet level lol.

@windshieldwiper: Yea I think if it was JUST Red Rush alone, he’d probably eventually get tagged and get put in a wheelchair. BUT, its not. Immortal has very good striking and durability, the rest of the fighters are an effective team. While Sonic is a ninja at heart, Garou is prone to directly challenging enemies face to face, which makes this fight difficult for him. I think Red Rush solo is possible, but pretty unlikely. Instead, with the backup, he hard carries his team to victory.

@swa2point0: My opinion of Sonic really varies but hes out of his league here, even with S2 feats hes only like Hypersonic or Arguably MHS. Hes gonna need to be relativistic to keep up with Red Rush IMO.