"The feat for pulling Manhattan is an impressive one. Ity's actually a very difficult weight to calculate as there are so many variables i.e Thickness of bedrock, number of buildings, number of people, number of vehicles.
The area of land mass is approx 23 square miles. If the bedrock thickness to be moved was around 2000 feet thick, this would equate to approx 18149100000000000 cm3. At an approx density of 2.7g/cm3 , that is 98,005,093,357 tonnes. If you then add in 2 million vehicles (1.8 million tonnes) and on average 2 million people (180,000 tonnes) and the number of buildings (very roughly 300,000,000 tonnes). That gives a figure of 98,358,273,357 tonnes.
As Herc was pulling the weight, he would also have had to overcome fricton forces (to begine the islands movement) and the resistance/weight of the water to the islands movement.
This would again appear to many times (billions+ times) smaller than the 33% the weight of the moon. "
Ok so if Herc dragged that it would be a greater feat Superman has ever done, DC's Hercules hasn't and probably can't do that since he is weaker than the Marvel Herc. Its an impressive feat, if he dragged, could he lift it? "
No, it would be be many many times less than superman's feat. Also, dragging does not mean he could lift it. That would be assuming that ones leg muscles are as strong as their arm muscles. This is almost always NOT the case.
"To highlight the massive difference in the top end feats as well, I have tried to calculate perform a calculation to show the weight of the Midgard Serpent (which Thor moved off the planet Earth) against the weight of 33% of the moons weight (which Superman has moved - he helped 2 others move the move the moon.
Diameter of the Midgard Serpents body in feet
Diameter of the Midgard Serpents body in cm
Cross Sectional Area of the body in cm3
Density of the Flash of the Midgard Serpent in g/cm3
Circumference of the Earth in miles
Circumference of the Earth in cm
Total volume of the Midgard Serpent's body in cm3
Total weight of the Midgard Serpent's body in g
Total weight of the Midgard Serpent's body in tonnes
33% of the moon's weight
Number of times greater that 33% the mass of the moon is than the weight of the Midgard Serpent.
I have made a few assumptions that should go in favour of of the Midgard Serpents weight - effectively maximising it. In various picture , the serpent has been shown to look around 100 feet in diameter, hence the figure chosen. I have used a fairly high density figure - making it at least 3x normal body density to reflect that Asgardian bodies are 3x denser than normal. I have assumed for this calaculation that the Serpent is solid. Clearly he is not (he has a stomach etc) but this helped maximise his weight.
You can see that just 33% of the moon exceeds the weight of the Midgard Serpent by over 2.3 billion times."
when claiming he moved 33% of the moons weight your assuming that he exerted equal force as the other two but you cant be sure that he didnt exert more or less force than them so that number could be a lot more or a lot less. "
yes, but when your dealing with the billions of times more than the feats being portrayed against it, it kind of doesn't matter.
"Luke Skywalker easy. If Obi Wan Kenobi can handle Darth Maul... why not a Jedi thats superior to him in Skill ?"
Yeah, but in ROTJ, Luke was not really a master, untill the end of the movie till he acomplished his task, and even then, he'd only just started! Luke wasn't really that powerfull in ROTJ and was only trained for months by Yoda, which was dubious at best, running around in swamp lands on Dagobah doing jumps and sommersaults and learning to use the force to lift things! Last time I checked, it took years to get to master, and Luke only did it in such a short time, cause he was the last Jedi to carry the legacy! It really wasn't till years afte JOTJ that Luke hit his peak when he re-founded the Jedi order and surpassed Yoda himself and the previous Jedi who came before him! I don't believe Luke in ROTJ was all that powerfull, just lucky at that point cause he was part of a prophecy!"
The Original Poster doesnt give an indication of what point in the film of Return of the Jedi we are using so we could say its Luke from the end of Return of the Jedi... and I personally consider the feat of beating Darth Vader greater than the feat of defeating Darth Maul. If Luke was skilled enough to battle with Darth Vader. A former Jedi who had defeated Count Dooku when he was Anakin. I gotta give him the nod"
hold on if darth maul fights rotj luke than darth maul is older so hes a lot better than he was in episode 1 he knows how to do lightning if he fights rotj luke so he might have a chance"
You can't just assume they would learn things. That isn't how it goes. Besides, maul would be pretty old, and probably be on the way out the door. I mean, Vader was quite old in ROTJ and was just a child when maul was an adult.
I think they would have used hulk as another poster boy for why the registration needed to exist. First by showing the massive damage he causes that someone needs to be punished for, and secondly showing "untrained" superhero's making a total mess of things trying to stop him. And they could still have the planet hulk and WWH happen, just starts a little later. They "Banish" him from earth, and the rest follows as it did.