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@pimpkingmegasus said:

@justaxviel: he didn't try to stop her directly in the mindscape, he tried to free the variant. He did however stop her reality warping and awareness of reality by telepathically engaging her mind. Jean here has actual astral combat feats and my point is Wanda being so easily engaged telepathically means the knock out psi bolt Jean used on Cyclops gets her everytime.

Engaging someone telepathically does not mean one can defeat them telepathically, Wanda Maximoff is a good example. No wanking the Summer's sausage either, that Xavier that fought Wanda was a FOX/TAS variant.

In any case if entering someone's mind is so impressive, astrally neck snapping that person would rate much higher. In any case the Scarlet Witch isn't being dropped by a mere psi-bolt lol

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@pimpkingmegasus said:

@rajjarsalt: was defenseless from telepathic engagement and that variant was buried, Wanda was the dominant. So she failed to protect herself from intrusion. No tp defense.

Buried by who? Buried from where?

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@Aristeaus said:

Here goes WankAlt trying to state, again, that Black Winter destroyed a DC Universe... despite it not being a cross over, or sanctioned. There is a very damn good reason why they never actually show the characters or any DC related property. They weren't given permission to.

Black Winter has nothing to do with DC. Period.

The comic was released the following month after the revelation of Secret Crisis. Next.

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@jay_z94: Two counters

I could concede that TOBA is the 2nd most powerful being in Marvel and my position on Black Winter would remain strong, as it isn't just in Marvel. It appeared in DC as well.

Black Winter is damaging a cosmic superstructure which TOBA is a part of, and given Black Winter's own statements, it didn't even mean to, 'twas but a side-effect of looking around for 616. TOBA does not command such cosmological power. The power that holds the Below-Place together is enough to bind it aside from special circumstances like human proxies going through Green Doors and what not.

I'll say no more as you have enough on your plate. @blackspidey2099 has already outlined the other argument of timeframe - with cosmological power, the Ninth Cosmos feat could be accomplished in seconds let alone several billion years.

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@pimpkingmegasus said:

@thedevil98: she didn't have defenses in that either. Xavier casually entered her mind and America escaped because she couldn't do anything in the real world while telepathically engaged.

Xavier entered the variant's mind, and Wanda killed him easily. Nor was it telepathic engagement either, it was the multiverse magic of dreamwalking.

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@blackspidey2099: @jay_z94

Besides Galactus being fodder to Black Winter, Sentience was also fodderized by Black Winter just as a byproduct of wasting the Sixth Cosmos.

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@rajjarsalt: How long he took to do what he did was irrelevant; he was going around punching stars/planets 1 at a time. Saying that’s “all” he can do is fallacious and un-backed. Especially when in the comic it says “scale is meaningless to it, It will be as large as it must”.

Furthermore, you can’t say it took 10 billion years. The fly’s journey back in time took that long but he’s going back to Leader in the current time. We don’t know how long it took to get to the end of all time in the 8th cosmos. All we know is that FR was killed 2 billion years before the end.

"It will be as large as it must" means it must be larger to destroy the star lol. Dunno how a fair burden of proof for feats is fallacious and un-backed though.

Well, it's stated that billions of years passed in the Ninth Cosmos

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@rajjarsalt: No, you still can’t wave it away because I’m not waving away your scan either. I read it and accept it, but it doesn’t change the fact that TOBA is 2nd most powerful after TOAA. Like nothing in the scan points to this.

No it is vital that you do not accept this. As TOBA is inclusive to the Tree's cosmology -

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@jay_z94 said:

@rajjarsalt: lol still nope.

Your scan doesn’t change the fact that TOBA is TOAA when angry and the 2nd most powerful entity after TOAA.

Case in point. I think I am justified in "waving away what the comic is telling me" now