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I would like to see some durability feats for Hawkgirl because that definitely seems like an outlier especially after you said she is a superhuman (even if she is a low-level one). Regardless, no significant damage was done, so while it is a pretty neat feat that takes away from it.

Here's we see Hawkgirl's male counterpart manhanding Green arrow and stopping a blitzing Flash dead in his tracks as for Hawkgirl herself she has consistently fought superhumans. Sending someone of her stats flying is very impressive.

I don't know how I feel about this feat. On one hand, I feel as if this feat is an outlier considering Vandal Savage has ridiculous feats such as bullet timing and deflecting arrows and bullets (1)(2) and throwing knives fast enough to give the Flash trouble catching them and even causes the former to get tagged by one. If not that, then the feat you should isn't impressive as you made it out to be.

It's was a past Vandal savage which is considerably weakened compared to his current version but still impressive nonetheless

An impressive feat, really but Matt has a much better feat and it is the fact that he managed to evade most of Elektra/Black Sky's attacks (someone with similar speed and far more skilled compared to Minotaur), as shown above. As far as I know, Elektra is a far more skilled opponent compared to Minotaur unless you could prove otherwise

First of I would like to note that Elektra was holding back evertime they fought it was confirmed when they fought the third time. I would also like to note that on multiple occasions she treated Matt like fodder alongside the rest of the Defenders.

I would like to see some more durability feats from Sarah, because this definitely seems like an outlier for her considering the guys the Pilgrim fought before Sarah were casually getting one-shotted, yet the former managed to withstood her attacks without a problem. Also, staggering somebody doesn't necessarily equate to damaging them or inflicting any real harm.

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Here she tanks multiple blows from Kausa (Someone who's capable of ragdolling superhumans) causally. I would like to note that she was perfectly fine afterwards.Pilgrim was no selling bullets so making her head move is extremely impressive.

What body armor? Also, in regards to the ARGUS agent's skill, the average Hand member/ninja's skill should be just as good, if not better, being able to dispatch trained police officers without a problem and these same guys were giving Daredevil and Elektra (pre-resurrection) two master martial artists hell all throughout season 2 of Daredevil and were trained by an ancient organization bent on gaining immortality. Yet, Matt was able to defeat a bunch of them, at one point even while his senses were taken advantage of.

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Sara was capable of taking out Malcolm Merlyn someone that's capable of one shoting NYSSA Al ghul. (She is capable of fighting off 5 lOA's ninjas with causal ease/One ninja was capable of fighting both Arrow Season 2 Sara and Oliver at the same time)

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I proved that Sara has the edge in striking and durability/Damage soak while having comparable speed and skill. Matt is good but he is significantly below Sara.

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@jaylinfreeman: Fine I will have a counter post up as soon as possible

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In-terms of raw combat speed, I believe that Diana has CM outclassed by quite a bit. Diana is capable of fighting at massively hypersonic speeds, and is able to casually block hundreds of bullets using her gauntlets. On top of that, she was also able to react Darkseid's Omega Beams & block them using her gauntlets at close range (these were the same Omega Beams that could keep pace with Superman & the Flash).

If I have to say their not that far behind each other considering Carol has her seventh sense which allows her to predict her opponents movements. She's also quick enough to dodge a energy blast which was stated to be moving faster then the speed of light. Her flight speed is also quite impressive considering she's capable of flying at Mach 246+

Diana is a highly skilled warrior, and has been training ever since she was a child. This is made even more impressive when you consider the fact she was trained by the God of War himself, Ares. Even in her youth, her skill was so immense that she was even able to overcome some of her Amazonian teachers.

Carol has been genetically enhanced with the knowledge and instinct of a kree warrior and has taking down small groups of AIM soldiers. Most impressively while being powerless she's capable of taking down the villainous Mystique

Gaunlets: Her gaunlets can be used to block energy attacks from CM, and they should have 0 issues doing so given the fact that they were able, as showed in an earlier scan, block the Omega Beams (the OBs are capable of putting Superman down in one-shot).

Most definitely Diana's gauntlets should be capable of blocking Carol's energy blasts but even still if she manages to land energy hit on Diana it would definitely hurt considering that you provided zero energy durability feats. Carol energy is powerful enough to tear through Iron Patriot, Iron Man and Hulkbuster 's amour.

Diana can use TLoT to restrain, or toss CM around like she does Supergirl in these scans. Supergirl, physically, isn't very impressive in the New 52, but she has some solid showings like using a cargo ship as a bat to send Superman flying.

If Diana restrains Carol with her lasso the only way out would be a massive AOE wave of energy that would definitely knock Diana back.

I'm not familiar with any of CM's piercing durability feats, but based on the little I know of her, I don't see her being able tank a swing from Diana's sword which is capable of splitting atoms. This isn't hyperbole either as the sword has been used to cause a Nuclear explosion by doing exactly what it's been said to be capable of.

Diana's sword won't be a problem for Carol considering that she has a greater healing factor then Wolverine and for the nuke thingy Carol has actually absorbed nuke before.

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Striking: Diana has more than enough striking power to lay the hurt on CM. She's been able to harm the likes of Aquaman, and Superman with her strikes (leaving both with bloody lips as a result).

Carol definitely has the striking to put down Diana in a couple of blows which she could amp with her energy.

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Nuclear Man can take a beating from She-Hulk without issue - The Sensational She-Hulk (1989) #38

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Overall this is a good fight but form what was shown Carol should take this quite handily considering she's stronger and more durable while also having energy projectiles which should hurt Diana a lot.

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@geekryan: I am OK with posting first its probably going to be around next week because of making links and gathering scans

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@geekryan: Her widow Gauntlets and dual pistols

Distance is perfect

Pre-52/New-52/Rebirth Canary is perfect lol

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@kasya_carey: Psylocke had better speed and can easily one shot Storm via a telekinetic push or teke dagger. Her shields are powerful enough to block anything Storm can through at her considering that she punched through planetary scale shields, blocked attacks from AU Phoenix/Amped Storm/Meggan.

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@geekryan: Black Widow (Me) vs Black Canary (You)

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  • Ingore Hope summers
  • Only 90'st feats for Emma frost, Captain Britain and Jean Grey
  • No phoenix
  • Telepathy only