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@hatsonmelo:

@hatsonmelo: or Hulk punching through time and rewriting all of existence, and paradoxes.

@hatsonmelo: you mean the same abomination, who was stated to be softening up star systems for the galaxy master to consume? The same being said on multiple occasions to destroy universes, is scared of the Hulk.

@hatsonmelo: Not consistent and wouldn’t really scale to what he’s done in his own run.

Hulk is many things. He is a rage metaphor incarnate, a power fantasy and can represent any narrative you want.

But his primary function is he is a monster.

He then states hulk will go up against monsters, demons, cosmic hellscapes, the evil from Marvel's lore, evil marvel hasnt shown or known, & things we cant even imagine.

The wildest part, is he says hulk will smash all of this. He is the strongest there is.

You can never get rid of the hulk according to the author. He will come back forever and that is why he is the scariest thing in Marvel.

He scales above sealing metaphysical doors, already an extra dimensional argument. We then see he is beyond cosmic landscapes, all monsters in Marvel, horrors we cant imagine, & monsters that we see clearly manipulate archetypal things such as dreams and nightmares.

He also can never be gone, as long as anything exists hulk is there. No monsters are scarier than the one you cant get away from you.

Hulk destroys the followers of brother deep as they say the death of fractured son would signal the return of their god to his glory

Brother Deep was once burned by the Golden God TOAA. It was Rage that burned Brother Deep to beyond even death.

Hulk is that same Rage.

Brother deep wants to kill Fractured Son because he is what killed brother deep. This means Fractured Son is the Wrath of The One Above All

Hulk then survives Brothers attack with no problem

Hulk proceeds to have no issue tearing apart brother deep and sending him burning down below similar to as described by the story of TOAA vs brother deep

This confirms anything done to the mortal banner, including his soul and mind, wont put down Hulk

Ted Sallis BFRs hulk to inside the nexus, and he explains hulk is stronger than him.

He needs hulk to help fight the primordial beings and Eldest. Man Thing also says that Eldest and her minions can destroy the nexus if they are not stopped.

As the defender of the nexus of all realities in creation, man thing is still not as powerful as the hulk is.

Hulk is not just hulk. He is the Fractured Son.

This is the avatar of the One below All. His Godflesh is key to summoning the rival to the One Below All, the Mother of Horrors

Eldest is her eldest being and implied strongest

Eldest also remarks that the Fractured Son should rightfully be feared.

The mother of horrors is the being who created all things deemed monsters in creation. She says Mother of Horrors was the original ruler of earth. We also see Mother of Horrors commands things in and beyond reality, dreams and nightmares. All things evil bad and monstrous comes from her.

Eldest summons all monsters to take down Fractured Son.

@sirfizzwhizz: he has consistent, universal showings and beyond.

@sirfizzwhizz: hulks power is comparable to a being who can destroy all universes

@sirfizzwhizz: lol

@thewatcherking: Star level?

Axiom of metaphysics is used to define concepts.

So platonic concepts are outer as external reality type of concept in the axiom of metaphysics. The next level within the axiom of metaphysics is anything high outerversal, performing as concept of concepts or like platonic of platonic. Axiom of metaphysics, is like saying the logic that defines concepts.

Here is a linked to some of tegmarks work. Page 13 onwards is what you want. Mathematical democary in his terms is that if it is a methamtical structure built off a type 3 or greater and using external reality hypothesis as an axiom in the multiverse (making sure the axiom of external reality hypothesis is in the multiverse as part of mathematical democray then all other axiom than can exist will exist as a byproduct. https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbU1hU1I2d3JUc1NSeHctVElBR1VaRk4tRDVXUXxBQ3Jtc0tuY3NpaF9KRmtjc2NRdG9BazFmd2U4OHZJYlNsTFVUZTRwdmN3dTJWak00QzBTWmI2cXJkSWRoSjVVYkFqX2MtaUtzSTROSWtOSUthbzE4WG16eF93Nk1mdVlEOFFvckVkSnNfeW92bmtSWGVRX3hXRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fspace.mit.edu%2Fhome%2Ftegmark%2Fmultiverse.pdf&html_redirect=1

Asgard being stated to transcend all known dimensions, which would also be mathematical ones making it Outerversal. We know Yggdrasil was growing in a time before time itself, and even asguardians can’t conceive of how its properties. “THE BATTLE WILL RAGE BEYOND ALL TIME..

BEYOND ALL SPACE...FAR ,FAR BEYOND THE FURTHEST RANGE OF THOUGHT ITSELF!!” That is still within the 616 universe. Every conceivable metaphysical plane would obviously have axioms of logic.

-Manipulating the BigCrunchwhile weakened (Annihilation)

-Used a portion of the Odinforce to resurrect Beta Ray Bill and used his Power Cosmic to rebuild the Stormbreaker from scratch, something Odin didn't believe was possible

-His power can destroy a galaxy if misused. Surfer was weakened at the time. (FF 56-61) (TPB 3)

-Has soared through the hearts of exploding galaxies, cosmic conflagrations which caused the firmament (theuniverse) itself to cower (1987 Annual #8)-Held an infant galaxy in his hand and set it to spinning (Thor 2011 #8)

-Safely contains enough energy to destroy 2 universes .

-Fight with the Uni-lord destroys galaxies. (Vol 3. 119-120), Uni-lord holds the universe together and can devour galaxies with a mere thought

-Battledthe Great one, whose defeat resulted in the destruction of his construct universe, multi-dimensional dispersion on a subatomic level (Silver Surfer/Warlock: Resurrection #1)

-Battled and defeated Man-thing wielding the Staff of creation, which would cause the end of all thing, all realities. Containing him in a cocoon ( From Strange Tales #1; 1998)

-Silver Surfer fights and holds off the M-Body of Griever at the End of All Things, who's one of 3 faces of existence alongside Eternity and Never-queen, for 16 minutes and 4 seconds. (Fantastic four 2018, 28)

-Clashes evenly with a galactus that had just ate (Silver Surfer Rebirth #3)

-Accidentally one-shots Tyrant, who was empowered by/wielding the Reality Gem, directly stating he controls the universe/all reality in the same issue, and considers himself>Galactus (Silver surfer rebirth #5)

Resists Soul sucking from the Soul Gem (‘87 #16)-Destroys a monster’s astral self, the astral plane as neither distance nor time. And is the source of the power cosmic.(In thy name)-Can phase someone out of reality, make singularities in their eyes and other stuff (^)-Can disarm both sides in a space war with a shrug, sigh or whisper(^)

-Immune to power siphoning by someone stronger than himself,stated to challenge galactus(Marvel Graphic Novel 58) (Silver Surfer The Enslavers #1)

-Silver surfer is reduced to a random thought, returns himself to normal (Silver surfer #3)

-Is twice as old as the universe (Defenders 2021 #3) (Referring to the events of Silver Surfer Black and Surfer & Dawn)

-Is reality warped by the Reality gem, but returns himself to normal resisting its effects (Siver Surfer rebirth #5)

@thewatcherking:

first of all FSF wouldn’t work on someone who is superior to Vegeta. the power cosmic could easily negate such things but not only that, surfer has way more hax before Vegeta could do any harm. Surfer can erase him from existence, and even as a concept.

He launches a wave throughout the cosmos, said wave containing a destruct code, which precisely erases all traces of Zenn-La’s culture, “no matter how deeply embedded.” Every aspect of Zenn-La’s history, culture, and even its existence are erased from the universe, with even the memories of Zenn-Lavians being wiped,andeven the in-universe comics detailing Silver Surfer’s origins having been altered to remove all traces of Zenn-La.

Surfer still stomps