ProfessorRespect

Basically, this match is Jean losing to Xemnu based on the enormous stat gap, but on top of that, there's Black Bolt who's possibly going to kill both of them right off the bat with a scream......team two decisively.

What was going on here?

Come on now

come on what etc

Did Thor not find ways to deal with Juggernaut even if he couldn't beat him head-on

Thor back in the day with Juggs either had to strip his force-field/aura (which Seid can't do).

Darkseid is more intelligent and much more of a prep-guy than Thor

He gets no prep here though?

He certainly has more hax-y powers than Thor

Seid doesn't use those powers though, certainly not in conventional fights anyway.

And mid-tier goons

Yes.

Classic Juggernaut struggled with the X-Men

Did you read those instances? The X-Men typically did no tangible damage to him, the only thing that saved them typically was removing the helmet for TP purposes which as time went on became harder and harder to do.

Darkseid>Classic Hulk/Joe Fixit/Professor Hulk/Green Scar/World Breaker

Absolute cope

but Hulk just doesn't hold a candle to Darkseid

Based on....nothing.

What's his answer for Omega Beams

Tanking them like Sups and numerous others have.

Darkseid teleported people around all the time

It is rather amusing that you say so much about Seid's incredible stats (and then just don't show anything) then immediately resort to BFR. If his stats as regular Seid are so impressive, why go into this?

You mention him not doing it in combat, but that's just because he didn't fight very often

This excuse works if you ignore any fight Seid has had in N52/Rebirth where he wasn't also doing BFR's. At some point you kinda have to admit that he just isn't written with that as a tendency.

Darkseid is better than Juggernaut at everything

Classic Juggs dominated Thor, Seid jobs to Superman in virtually every incarnation that isn't amped. Not really a comparable situation there.

Between the elite warriors with superpowers, hordes of different Parademons and arsenals of planet-busting weaponry

Why would they use planet-busting weapons on their own planet?

Apokolips is certainly full of methods to get rid of Juggernaut, throw him into space, trap him somewhere,

Right, so Apokolips is epically armed but we're going right to BFR antics again lol.

And that's assuming that there aren't methods or characters in Apokolips that could bypass Juggernaut's invulnerability. Because almost certainly there are

Name some thanks

I mean victory is clearly for Team 1.

I mean everyone knows that Surfer>Terrax, even Pre-Annihilation and seeing that Terrax stalemated Kyle in their crossover, the same crossover were Hank stalemated Norrin, gives you two characters>Terrax, who stalemated GL.

And those characters are even in the same Team.

This is why Gladiator will never be as powerful as Superman

Arkham Bane. I know some will claim he is written poorly after Arkham Origins, and he is, but at the very least there is an in-universe explanation provided for his cognitive decline. Moreover, Nolan trilogy Bane hardly escapes this fate - after his epic final confrontation with Bruce he's unceremoniously killed off by Catwoman.

lol

@professorrespect: 1. How? Simon literallly says “take all Ive got”

Figurative etc, not to mention Rogue never scales completely to Simon either. Same run had her almost get wrecked by Grim Reaper while Simon fought and defeated him multiple times or at the very least to a functional draw like in the mid 2000's.

why wouldnt She have his full scope? that makes no sense

Simply having his energy wouldn't equate to being able to use it to the fullest potential, naturally. Still don't see how you've proven any of your initial statement.

2. It doesnt matter

Not a very epic debunk

Also even if you want to use that argument that she only got in two hits, quicksilvers speed allows him to get more hits

He'll only get the one in before his whole body breaks. As I've made clear, QS never fought at those speeds partly because he has no special speed aura to protect his physical body from the act of throwing a punch with his weight.

in that will eventually surpass the damage of high tiers like wonder man

Sounds like fan-canon. That's never happened, the logic of comics has always had speedsters suck at specifically dealing damage. I don't need to show the scans of QS failing to beat street tiers like Swordsman because that's fairly obvious at that point.

3. You said the damage was cosmetic even though he dropped the high evolutionary

...and it was given it did nothing to the guy? As I said, cosmetic. You thinking knocking him over matters is your own faulty logic, not me. He was completely fine afterwards.

4. Quicksilver hasn’t hurt himself punching bricks

What bricks were Savage Hulk level post Core-Breach + had him moving at LS+?

5. immortal hulk isn’t weaker than regular hulk

He is? Lol you really are confused here, Devil Hulk by virtue of being smarter than Savage is thereby weaker, not even going into specific instances where we clearly see Savage as stronger (like Leader specifically excluding Savage from the mindscape when given the opportunity as he's always seen it as the most dangerous) It's a long-running theme that intellect reduces the scope of Hulk's strength.