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@CapitolPunishment: I read the post on top of page 4, says he can press about 650 pounds. thats a lot of weight. judging by this, he's going to have a ton of agility and power. I'd estimate that brock is about 2/3 his strength, maybe pressing 400. brock moves like a cat, but I'm not sure how agile fisk is. Also, there is no way brock would be knocked out by one of kingpin's punches. He is a trained fighter and has taken tremendous punches in the past and was not knocked out. Take for example his fights with carwin, where he was continually beat on for a good 3 minutes, or his second fight with mir where he took a colossal knee to the jaw. It's going to take a lot more than a single punch to knock him out. The only punch that could have a chance of knocking him down (not out) in one hit would be a wildly wound up haymaker, and being a trained fighter, brock would see this coming from a mile away and cover up.  
 
Brock would win because he could easily close the distance on kingpin for a takedown. I read an account of big show (450 pounds) being easily taken down and tossed around when they were practicing actual wrestling during one of their practices.  
 
kingpin's height and weight put him at the same weight, but shorter than big show. His bio also says that he is "unusually agile for a man of his size", but saying that brock has "unusual agility" would be a massive understatement. Pin's bio also says he has extraordinary fighting skills in hand to hand. But when's the last time you saw a hand to hand expert face a wrestler? hint: the hand to hand expert gets taken down immediately and gets his face beat in. Unless someone can prove that kingpin has wrestling or ground fighting experience, he will get absolutley steamrolled by brock.  
 
Oh, you guys think kingpin will be able to "stay off the ground" or "avoid the take down"? go look up any youtube video of a hand to hand style fighter vs a wrestler. The hand to hand expert will lose 95% of the time. 
like this 185 pound guy beating a 500 pound guy 
  
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@JediXMan: well if you take away herc's super-superpowers, then the rest of the team is kind of lacking. sure, brb can take on wonderwoman, but I don't think herc and loki could matchup with troy, wonder girl and dc herc, but marvel ares just kind of sucks in comparison to the rest of them.
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@JediXMan: ah. well this doesn't seem very fair, then. How bout marvel gets Rune King, odin-forced thor? and probably give herc all his full potential as well.
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@Static Shock: Suppose I should have looked on the second page of comments before posting, as you've already said most of what I have. But take a look, I think I did a decently thorough post.
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#5  Edited By phliuy

isn't vibranium the "anti-metal" metal or something like that? 
marvel wiki to the rescue! 
http://marvel.wikia.com/Vibranium  

apparently, wakandan vibranium will absorb all vibrations imparted onto it by storing the vibrational energy between the bonds of the vibranium atoms. However, there is an upper limit of energy which these bonds can absorb, as seen when vibranium failed to absorb the full blast of a bomb. The first adamantium was created when some lab guy fell asleep and vibranium combined with steel and some other stuff, making a material called proto-adamantium that's stronger than any adamantium ever made.  
 
So to whoever said that cap's shield doesn't have any adamantium in it, you're kind of right...and wrong. His shield is entirely adamantium, and the strongest form of it ever created.
 
Antarctic vibranium on the other hand will liquefy any metals nearby through vibrations that come from its own atoms.  [This next part is purely my own conjecture, and is not to be taken as complete authority] 
antarctic vibranium most likely does this by vibrating at a frequency that causes the bonds in the nearby metals to lose hold of eachother. The vibrations from the antarctic vibranium nullify in part the weak nuclear forces of nearby metal atoms, causing them to liquefy at much lower temperatures than their melting point due to their weak attractions to other atoms. however, the weak nuclear force is not completely nullified, as the metal is transformed into a liquid state, and not a gas or plasma state. This is similar to emitting a sound wave at the resonant frequency of an object and causing it to vibrate. 
[end conjecture] 
  
also, the marvel wiki says that true adamantium is almost as strong as cap's original shield, so take that as you will. http://marvel.wikia.com/Adamantium 
It also says that a weaker form of adamantium (secondary adamantium) was only very slightly dented by thor hitting it with mjolnir. Since thor can hit much harder than a bomb, it can be shown that even a weaker adamantium is much stronger than wakandan vibranium.
 
so there you have it. adamantium in all forms is much stronger than vibranium, but an alternate form of vibranium (which should technically have a different name due to its completely different properties) would liquefy the hell out of even the strongest adamantium. 
 
Problem solved.

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marvel. thor and brb can take wonderwoman and wonder girl. dc herc is probably more powerful than marvel herc, but not by much. dc ares will stomp marvel ares. I suppose it will come down to ares vs loki and thor with their combined magic. I think it will be too much for ares to handle.

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@Jnr6Lil: not all to the same degree
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@Jnr6Lil: dumbed down: who helps the people of earth in the comic book universes the most? Although it is a rather open ended question
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@ThanoStomp: You read the whole op! Thank you! dead serious. 
anyways. to me, street levelers and slightly super powered vs actually superpowered comes down to improving quality of life for a few people vs keeping the status quo
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@The Stegman: ah, you mean the one comic where he did that? how bout every almost every batman comic, or every spiderman comic? 
 
d@DoomDoomDoom: perhaps i should make a post about the dark side of heroes, hahaha. 
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: GHOST BUST.....dammit.